ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) (09/07/90)
Hi there ! I am using ODT from SCO (Open Desktop, X-Win like).
I saw on CeBIT (Biggest show for Computers in Europe) that it is possible
to run MS-DOS in a Window. But I only saw text (say ASCII). Is it also possible
to run Grafix ? Would be great !
Any Idea ? Anybody heard about this ?
Mail me via E-Mail.
CU, Markus.
PS. Is this the right NewsGroup for asking this ?
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Markus Illenseer I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid, I can't do that.
4790 Paderborn ,United Germany Email: ill@uni-paderborn.de
********************************************************************************ggw@wolves.uucp (Gregory G. Woodbury) (09/07/90)
In <1990Sep6.203131.11844@uni-paderborn.de> ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes: > >Hi there ! I am using ODT from SCO (Open Desktop, X-Win like). >I saw on CeBIT (Biggest show for Computers in Europe) that it is possible >to run MS-DOS in a Window. But I only saw text (say ASCII). Is it also possible >to run Grafix ? Would be great ! >Any Idea ? Anybody heard about this ? I would say that it depends on the particular DOS-under-unix product that you are using. Under VP/ix (ISC 2.0.2) I have seen Lotus 1-2-3 run on a VGA card and do "everything", including the graphics. Actually, it was also possible to run it from the dial-in, but the graphics don't come out right, but the spreadsheet is useable. -- Gregory G. Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC UUCP: ...dukcds!wolves!ggw ...mcnc!wolves!ggw [use the maps!] Domain: ggw@cds.duke.edu ggw%wolves@mcnc.mcnc.org [The line eater is a boojum snark! ] <standard disclaimers apply>
chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM (Chip Rosenthal) (09/09/90)
In article <1990Sep6.203131.11844@uni-paderborn.de> ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes: >I saw on CeBIT [...] that it is possible to run MS-DOS in a Window. But I >only saw text (say ASCII). Is it also possible to run Grafix ? No, you can't. As soon as the program tries to mess with the video graphics, Merge will stop and ask you to switch to full screen. -- Chip Rosenthal <chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM> Unicom Systems Development, 512-482-8260 Our motto is: We never say, "But it works with DOS."
wain@seac.UUCP (Wain Dobson) (09/10/90)
In article <1563@chinacat.Unicom.COM> chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM (Chip Rosenthal) writes: >In article <1990Sep6.203131.11844@uni-paderborn.de> > ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes: >>I saw on CeBIT [...] that it is possible to run MS-DOS in a Window. But I >>only saw text (say ASCII). Is it also possible to run Grafix ? > >No, you can't. As soon as the program tries to mess with the video >graphics, Merge will stop and ask you to switch to full screen. > Since the reason to test out other than vga/ega modes has not presented itself, my assumption was that ODT-DOS only does this with applications running/requiring vga/ega. And, I would, again, assume that if Grafix runs in cga or herc mode, then it would be possible. Correct me if my assumption is out to lunch. Wonder if you have noticed that when a dos application (something like qbasic) is in a window the mouse events are not interpreted but when you zoom the application, the mouse events become interpreted? -- Wain Dobson, Vancouver, B.C. ...!{uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!seac!wain
herder@myab.se (Jan Herder) (09/10/90)
In article <1563@chinacat.Unicom.COM> chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM (Chip Rosenthal) writes: <In article <1990Sep6.203131.11844@uni-paderborn.de> < ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes: <>I saw on CeBIT [...] that it is possible to run MS-DOS in a Window. But I <>only saw text (say ASCII). Is it also possible to run Grafix ? < <No, you can't. As soon as the program tries to mess with the video <graphics, Merge will stop and ask you to switch to full screen. The latest version of Merge, 2.0, comes with a dos X window which is supposed to handle CGA grafiks in the window. You must however "zoom" EGA and VGA app. -- Jan Herder, FORDONSDATA Sweden | Phone: +46 31 18 75 12 Internet: herder@myab.se | Fax: +46 31 18 28 42 UUCP: uunet!sunic!chalmers!myab!herder | Address: Dr. Forseliusg 21 ARPA: herder%myab.se@uunet.uu.net | 413 26 Gothenburg
aaron@odt.Icom.Com (Aaron William Brown) (09/10/90)
In <1563@chinacat.Unicom.COM> chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM (Chip Rosenthal) writes: >In article <1990Sep6.203131.11844@uni-paderborn.de> > ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes: >>I saw on CeBIT [...] that it is possible to run MS-DOS in a Window. But I >>only saw text (say ASCII). Is it also possible to run Grafix ? >No, you can't. As soon as the program tries to mess with the video >graphics, Merge will stop and ask you to switch to full screen. Well, you can, but only in a limited fashion. If you run dos from an xterm like this: dos +acga <cga_graphics_program> you get a fixed sized dos window that shows CGA graphics. This feature is available on the ODT display (console) and (I think) any PC running the Locus PC Xsight server. -- Aaron Brown - Icom Systems, Inc. 6330 Captiol Dr. Wheeling, IL 60090 aaron@icom.COM || uunet!icom!aaron You can make it foolproof, but you can't make it damnfoolproof.
sassan@locus.com (Sassan Behzadi) (09/11/90)
In article <5684@seac.UUCP> wain@seac.UUCP (Wain Dobson) writes: > And, I would, again, assume that if Grafix > runs in cga or herc mode, then it would be possible. Correct me if my > assumption is out to lunch. Yes - cga, and herc grafix works in a window but ega/vga grafix must be zoomed to full screen. > > Wonder if you have noticed that when a dos application (something like > qbasic) is in a window the mouse events are not interpreted but when you > zoom the application, the mouse events become interpreted? You can re-direct the mouse events to a DOS window if you "Focus". With the DOS window active: Press ALT-D to bring up the "DOS Menu" and click on the "Focus" button. Now your mouse events go the the DOS window. To give the mouse back to X: bring up the "DOS Menu" and click on "Unfocus". This way you can share the mouse between the DOS clients and X. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sassan Behzadi sassan@lcc.COM Locus Computing Corporation ---------------------------------------------------------------------
wain@seac.UUCP (Wain Dobson) (09/11/90)
In article <17159@oolong.la.locus.com> sassan@locus.com (Sassan Behzadi) writes: >In article <5684@seac.UUCP> wain@seac.UUCP (Wain Dobson) writes: > => Wonder if you have noticed that when a dos application (something like => qbasic) is in a window the mouse events are not interpreted but when you => zoom the application, the mouse events become interpreted? = =You can re-direct the mouse events to a DOS window if you "Focus". With =the DOS window active: Press ALT-D to bring up the "DOS Menu" and click on =the "Focus" button. Now your mouse events go the the DOS window. To give =the mouse back to X: bring up the "DOS Menu" and click on "Unfocus". =This way you can share the mouse between the DOS clients and X. = Right. Thanks. It's right there on the menu and in the docs. So much for my thought process on that one. -- Wain Dobson, Vancouver, B.C. ...!{uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!seac!wain