[comp.unix.misc] Soviet Unix User Group

dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) (09/20/90)

We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
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internet: <dvv@hq.demos.su>         |
       or <dvv%hq.demos.su@fuug.fi> |         Motto coming soon.

ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) (09/20/90)

In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:

> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.

What is the meaning of life ?

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avg@hq.demos.su (Vadim G. Antonov) (09/20/90)

In article <1990Sep20.124422.5930@robobar.co.uk> ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes:
>In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>
>> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
>
>What is the meaning of life ?

	Hmmm... Hacking, of course.

	Vadim Antonov
	DEMOS, Moscow, USSR
	(It is NOT a joke!)

cruff@ncar.ucar.edu (Craig Ruff) (09/20/90)

>>In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>>
>>> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
>	DEMOS, Moscow, USSR

I'd like to say welcome to the net.  Does DEMOS stand for anything in
particular?  Can you describe what sort of system(s) you are using?
I suspect that like most people in this part of the world, I don't
know an awful lot about the Soviet Union. 
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abennett@athena.mit.edu (Andrew Bennett) (09/20/90)

I'm very interested in what the connections and equipment are
that you are using.

Is it possible to log in remotely?  If so, who's connected?
We have several visiting faculty from the Moscow Aviation Institute
that have expressed an interest in doing this.

-Drew

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dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) (09/20/90)

In article <8552@ncar.ucar.edu> cruff@handies.UCAR.EDU (Craig Ruff) writes:
>>>In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
>>	DEMOS, Moscow, USSR
>
>I'd like to say welcome to the net.  Does DEMOS stand for anything in
>particular?  Can you describe what sort of system(s) you are using?
>I suspect that like most people in this part of the world, I don't
>know an awful lot about the Soviet Union. 

Read alt.folklore.computers - we've got an intensive discussion of what
is DEMOS etc.

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       or <dvv%hq.demos.su@fuug.fi> |         Motto coming soon.

staylor@snidely.UUCP (Scott Taylor) (09/21/90)

in article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su>, dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) says:
> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.

Does "Soviet Unix User Group" address a Soviet (Communist) community or
does it address those of the Union of Republics community?  Perhaps this should
go to talk.politics?  And yes, what is The Meaning of Life?
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cruff@ncar.ucar.edu (Craig Ruff) (09/21/90)

In article <1990Sep20.164828.2391@hq.demos.su> dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) writes:
>Read alt.folklore.computers - we've got an intensive discussion of what
>is DEMOS etc.

Alas, we don't get this news group.  Thus, unless you can cross post or
mail out something relavent, I'm left out.
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david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson) (09/21/90)

>Dmitry V. Volodin                   |
>internet: <dvv@hq.demos.su>         |
>       or <dvv%hq.demos.su@fuug.fi> |         Motto coming soon.

The first project for DEMOS is to get their domain properly registered,
that or stop using "hq.demos.su" in the From: and Reply headers.

	-David

emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) (09/21/90)

In article <1990Sep20.205451.29419@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson) writes:

   The first project for DEMOS is to get their domain properly registered,
   that or stop using "hq.demos.su" in the From: and Reply headers.

It's an OK domain in Europe:

urania ~ % dig mx @mcsun.eu.net hq.demos.su

;; ANSWERS:
hq.demos.su.    86400   IN      MX      100 mcsun.eu.net.
hq.demos.su.    86400   IN      MX      200 uunet.uu.net.

and it looks like there's international root servers for the .su 
domain:

urania ~ % dig ns @mcsun.eu.net su.

;; ANSWERS:
su.     86400   IN      NS      mcsun.eu.net.
su.     86400   IN      NS      sunic.sunet.se.
su.     86400   IN      NS      uunet.uu.net.
su.     86400   IN      NS      brouilly.inria.fr.
su.     86400   IN      NS      munnari.oz.au.

su.     86400   IN      SOA     mcsun.eu.net.  hostmaster.mcsun.eu.net.

So I'd attribute the problems to slowness in getting this information
into the USA root servers, including ns.nasa.gov, ns.nic.ddn.mil.

As I understand it some USA networks have explicit provisions that
they not be connected to "Eastern bloc" networks; I don't know if
international concerns like that are the reason here or whether it's
simply a matter of time before the update makes it in.

--Ed

Edward Vielmetti, U of Michigan math dept <emv@math.lsa.umich.edu>
moderator, comp.archives

dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) (09/21/90)

	For those people who don't receive alt.folklore.computers:

	What DEMOS is:

	We are a co-operative - that is a group-private enterprise -
	formed by a bunch of programmers who were involved in the
	development of UNIX-compatibles for a variety of Soviet-made
	(Western-compatible, partially compatible, non-compatible
	and that doesn't look very computerish for westerners) computers.
	The name DEMOS was a generic name for these OSes. It is

	1) A Russian abbreviation for the 'Interactive Unified Portable
	   Operating System'

	2) (ancient Greek) People, citizens.
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josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) (09/21/90)

In <1990Sep20.132235.911@hq.demos.su> avg@hq.demos.su (Vadim G. Antonov) writes:

>In article <1990Sep20.124422.5930@robobar.co.uk> ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes:
>>In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>>
>>> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
>>
>>What is the meaning of life ?

>	Hmmm... Hacking, of course.

It's actually 49!

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subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) (09/22/90)

In article <1990Sep21.091537.7858@hq.demos.su> dvv@hq.demos.su (Dmitry V. Volodin) writes:
>
>Dmitry V. Volodin <dvv@hq.demos.su>     |
>fax:    +7 095 233 5016                 |    We are smart guys, ain't we?
>phone:  +7 095 231 2129                 |

Hey, with an extention of ``su'', you know that these guys mean business :-)


				-Kartik

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subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) (09/22/90)

In article <josef.653915598@peun11> josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) writes:
>>In article <1990Sep20.124422.5930@robobar.co.uk> ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes:
>>>In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>>>> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
>>>
>>>What is the meaning of life ?
>
>>	Hmmm... Hacking, of course.
>
>It's actually 49!

Nope -- If you are referring to Douglas Adams' 
``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.

The question is revealed in ``Life, the Universe and Everything'' --

What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

(This is beginning to sound like an alt.stupidity thread)

			-Kartik



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alan@mq.COM (Alan H. Mintz) (09/22/90)

In article <1990Sep20.124422.5930@robobar.co.uk>, ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes:
> In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
> 
> > We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
> 
> What is the meaning of life ?

42.

Sorry.
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Frank.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank Simon) (09/23/90)

Hi !

josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) writes:
>In <1990Sep20.132235.911@hq.demos.su> avg@hq.demos.su (Vadim G. Antonov) writes
>>In article <1990Sep20.124422.5930@robobar.co.uk> ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes:
>>>In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>>>> We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.
>>>What is the meaning of life ?
>>	Hmmm... Hacking, of course.
>It's actually 49!
Oh .. u don't read the Hithchikers Guide right ... the answer of the life,
the universe and everything is 42 ... 

Special regards to the soviet union Usenetters ...
   
Terra
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josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) (09/24/90)

In <2721@idunno.Princeton.EDU> subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes:
[...stuff deleted...]
>>It's actually 49!

>Nope -- If you are referring to Douglas Adams' 
>``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.
[...more stuff deleted...]

Forgive my ignorance. I tried to be funny ... and failed B-{)

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stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) (09/24/90)

From article <1990Sep20.150141.18742@athena.mit.edu>, by abennett@athena.mit.edu (Andrew Bennett):
> I'm very interested in what the connections and equipment are
> that you are using.
> 
> Is it possible to log in remotely?  If so, who's connected?
> We have several visiting faculty from the Moscow Aviation Institute
> that have expressed an interest in doing this.
> 


Welcome.  Our mailer won't yet (?) accept your domain.

Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

Stephen Carter, Systems Manager, The Administration,
The University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9RH, UK
Tel: +44 273 678203  Fax: +44 273 678335     JANET: stevedc@uk.ac.sussex.syma
EARN/BITNET  : stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk      UUCP: stevedc@syma.uucp
ARPA/INTERNET: stevedc%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 

sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee) (09/25/90)

In article <3503@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
[ re: suug.fi]
===
===Welcome.  Our mailer won't yet (?) accept your domain.

Most European nameservers know about suug.su. So does uunet.

sun16>nslookup
Default Server:  vaxmom.scri.fsu.edu
Address:  192.70.169.250

> server uunet.uu.net
Default Server:  uunet.uu.net
Address:  192.48.96.2

> set q=mx
> set nodef
> suug.su
Server:  uunet.uu.net
Address:  192.48.96.2

suug.su preference = 100, mail exchanger = mcsun.eu.net
suug.su preference = 200, mail exchanger = uunet.uu.net
mcsun.eu.net    inet address = 192.16.202.1
uunet.uu.net    inet address = 192.48.96.2
uunet.uu.net    inet address = 137.39.1.2
>

They're not on Internet, but they appear to have a uucp link to fuug.fi 
(Finnish Unix user group).
===
===Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

Lots of postings from Japan on Usenet. Lots of Internet and uucp access.

===
===Stephen Carter, Systems Manager, The Administration,
===The University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9RH, UK
===Tel: +44 273 678203  Fax: +44 273 678335     JANET: stevedc@uk.ac.sussex.syma
===EARN/BITNET  : stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk      UUCP: stevedc@syma.uucp
===ARPA/INTERNET: stevedc%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 

epeterso@encore.com (Eric Peterson) (09/25/90)

stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:

| From article <1990Sep20.150141.18742@athena.mit.edu>, by abennett@athena.mit.edu (Andrew Bennett):
| > Is it possible to log in remotely?  If so, who's connected?
| > We have several visiting faculty from the Moscow Aviation Institute
| > that have expressed an interest in doing this.
| 
| Welcome.  Our mailer won't yet (?) accept your domain.
| 
| Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

There is a .jp domain with active systems -- the newsreader GNUS 3.13
was written by someone in Japan.
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dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk (Matthew Farwell) (09/25/90)

In article <3503@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
>Welcome.  Our mailer won't yet (?) accept your domain.
>
>Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

From news.announce.newusers
Subject: Regional newsgroup hierarchies

Fj
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Newsgroups in Japan.  Most of the discussion in these newsgroups in
carried on in Kanji and you need a Kanji newsreader to be able to read
them.  For more information, you can try contacting
news@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp.

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fj.books		Books of all genres, shapes, and sizes.
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I think the net reaches japan.

Dylan.
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mday@iconsys.uucp (Matt Day) (09/25/90)

In article <3503@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
>Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

If you take a look at the u.jpn.[123] maps, you'll see many computers in Japan
on the Net.  I guess they just like to remain quiet (they're up to something!).
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abennett@athena.mit.edu (Andrew Bennett) (09/26/90)

In article <3503@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
>
>Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?
>
>Stephen Carter, Systems Manager, The Administration,
>The University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9RH, UK
>Tel: +44 273 678203  Fax: +44 273 678335     JANET: stevedc@uk.ac.sussex.syma
>EARN/BITNET  : stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk      UUCP: stevedc@syma.uucp
>ARPA/INTERNET: stevedc%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk 

Occasionally, I get email from Japan.  Unfortunately, my success rate on
replying/origonating mail, w.r.t. Japan, is not good.

Anyone have suggestions?

-Drew

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gupta@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Rohit Gupta) (09/26/90)

stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:

>Welcome.  Our mailer won't yet (?) accept your domain.

>Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

The net does reach Japan. A list of nodes on the Japan network is available
via ftp-anon to ux1.cso.uiuc.edu in doc/email/japan.

Rohit
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root@grumbly.UUCP (Superuser) (09/26/90)

In article <74@mq.COM> alan@mq.COM (Alan H. Mintz) writes:
>In article <1990Sep20.124422.5930@robobar.co.uk>, ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes:
>> In article <1990Sep19.215622.15073@hq.demos.su> The Soviet Unix User Group <suug@ussr.eu.net> writes:
>> 
>> > We are up and running. Feel free to ask any questions.

Does your group get the entire Usenet distribution? or just
parts of it?  

Richard Ducoty

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mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) (09/26/90)

In article <1990Sep25.140816.11082@ibmpcug.co.uk>
	dylan@ibmpcug.CO.UK (Matthew Farwell) writes:

>Newsgroups in Japan.

>fj.comp.music		Topics about computers and music.

>fj.editor.misc		Talk about editors.

Above two are bogus newsgroups in Japan.

					Masataka Ohta

dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk (Matthew Farwell) (09/26/90)

In article <6240@titcce.cc.titech.ac.jp> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes:
>>Newsgroups in Japan.
>>fj.comp.music		Topics about computers and music.
>>fj.editor.misc		Talk about editors.
>Above two are bogus newsgroups in Japan.

Sorry I just took the things straight out of news.lists. Those lists
aren't very up to date anyway. The uk ones aren't anyway.

Dylan.
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perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) (09/27/90)

In article <3503@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter) writes:
>Welcome.  Our mailer won't yet (?) accept your domain.
>Strange that the Net reaches the Soviet Union but not (seemingly) Japan?

Japan has been on the Internet for a couple of years. One of the few countries
that won't participate (yet) is UK. Spain is another that could but won't.
Maybe we will see well connected Soviet sites before English ?

Anyway, *.su IN MX mcsun.eu.net, *.su IN MX uunet.uu.net, so get your mailer
fixed.

Per
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moconnor@mars.acs.oakland.edu (Mike O'Connor) (09/27/90)

In article: <1990Sep26.183130.8473@kth.se>,
perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) writes:

| Japan has been on the Internet for a couple of years. One of the few countries
| that won't participate (yet) is UK. Spain is another that could but won't.
| Maybe we will see well connected Soviet sites before English ?

Any particular reason why the U.K. is not in the Internet yet?

				Curious...
						...Mike


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dylan@ibmpcug.co.uk (Matthew Farwell) (09/27/90)

In article <1990Sep26.183130.8473@kth.se> perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) writes:
>Japan has been on the Internet for a couple of years. One of the few countries
>that won't participate (yet) is UK. Spain is another that could but won't.
>Maybe we will see well connected Soviet sites before English ?

I don't think its a question of won't participate. I think everyone agrees
that it would be a nice idea to have an ip network in the UK. If you really
are sadistic + you want to know all about the subject of IP in the uk,
feel free to read eunet.general, eunet.followup + comp.protocols.tcp-ip.

Dylan.
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rcpieter@svin02.info.win.tue.nl (Tiggr) (09/28/90)

josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) writes:

|>>It's actually 49!

|>Nope -- If you are referring to Douglas Adams' 
|>``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.

|Forgive my ignorance. I tried to be funny ... and failed B-{)

You didn't fail; the others shall be the first against the wall...

Tiggr

bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) (09/28/90)

In article <3168@vela.acs.oakland.edu> moconnor@mars.acs.oakland.edu (Mike O'Connor) writes:
   In article <1990Sep26.183130.8473@kth.se> perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) writes:
      One of the few countries that won't participate (yet) is UK...
      Maybe we will see well connected Soviet sites before English ?

   Any particular reason why the U.K. is not in the Internet yet?

Their national networking infrastructure was built before it was clear
to them that the TCP/IP suite would become as pervasive as it has.
They use their own "Coloured Book" protocol suite, with application
gateways for (e.g.) mail and news.

This was recently discussed, quite heatedly, in comp.protocols.tcp-ip.
I doubt that more flames here would help anyone at all.

perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) (09/30/90)

In article <1990Sep27.162205.8602@ibmpcug.co.uk> dylan@ibmpcug.CO.UK (Matthew Farwell) writes:
>In article <1990Sep26.183130.8473@kth.se> perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) writes:
>>Japan has been on the Internet for a couple of years. One of the few countries
>>that won't participate (yet) is UK.
> If you really
>are sadistic + you want to know all about the subject of IP in the uk,
>feel free to read eunet.general, eunet.followup + comp.protocols.tcp-ip.

I am. I do. I did. Someday when the users are screaming loud enough or when
a commercial net is built this will change. I don't hear any hard data about 
change of policies on the educational side, but please do surprise me.

Per
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jar@ifi.uio.no (Jo Are Rosland) (10/10/90)

In article <2721@idunno.Princeton.EDU>, subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes:
> Nope -- If you are referring to Douglas Adams' 
> ``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.
> 
> The question is revealed in ``Life, the Universe and Everything'' --
> 
> What do you get if you multiply six by nine?

I get 54, why do you ask :-)


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epeterso@houligan.encore.com (Eric Peterson) (10/11/90)

jar@ifi.uio.no (Jo Are Rosland) writes:


| In article <2721@idunno.Princeton.EDU>, subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes:
| > Nope -- If you are referring to Douglas Adams' 
| > ``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.
| > 
| > The question is revealed in ``Life, the Universe and Everything'' --
| > 
| > What do you get if you multiply six by nine?
| 
| I get 54, why do you ask :-)

But did you know that 6 times 9 *is* 42 in base 13?

Followups to /dev/null.

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herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (10/12/90)

In article <1990Oct10.140234.10712@ifi.uio.no>, jar@ifi.uio.no (Jo Are Rosland) writes:
> In article <2721@idunno.Princeton.EDU>, subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes:
>> Nope -- If you are referring to Douglas Adams' 
>> ``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.
>> 
>> The question is revealed in ``Life, the Universe and Everything'' --
>> 
>> What do you get if you multiply six by nine?
> 
> I get 54, why do you ask :-)

to find out who has read "Life, the Universe and Everything"

> 
> 
> -- 
> Jo Are Rosland
> jar@ifi.uio.no

dan herrick

dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter) (10/12/90)

 > >> ``The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'', the answer is 42.
 > >> The question is revealed in ``Life, the Universe and Everything'' --
 > >> What do you get if you multiply six by nine?
 > > I get 54, why do you ask :-)
 > to find out who has read "Life, the Universe and Everything"
Or "Alice in Wonderland" of course.
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staylor@snidely.UUCP (Scott Taylor) (10/13/90)

in article <infinity>, everybody asks:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the meaning of Life?

I still want to know, is this `Soviet Unix User Group' around for
organization of a 'Union of Soviet Socialist (Forced) Republics' 
Unix interest group, or just a Commie Coordination?

I can't wait for this mess.
				-Scott
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wain@seac.UUCP (Wain Dobson) (10/14/90)

In article <129@snidely.UUCP> staylor@snidely.UUCP (Scott Taylor) writes:
>in article <infinity>, everybody asks:
=
=>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the meaning of Life?
=
=I still want to know, is this `Soviet Unix User Group' around for
=organization of a 'Union of Soviet Socialist (Forced) Republics' 
=Unix interest group, or just a Commie Coordination?
=
=I can't wait for this mess.
=				-Scott

Why don't you back off a bit and take this bs to somewhere like
alt.????.

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