portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi) (08/22/90)
Mitch Kapor left Lotus some time ago. He is now president of ON
Technology. He has nothing to do with Lotus' current attitudes
towards "look and feel".
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"every now and then things become clear" -- jane siberrylwyse@retina.bu.edu (Wyse) (08/22/90)
> NEW FOUNDATION ESTABLISHED TO ENCOURAGE COMPUTER-BASED COMMUNICATIONS > POLICIES > > Washington, D.C., July 10, 1990 -- Mitchell D. Kapor, founder of > Lotus Development Corporation and ON Technology, today announced that > he, along with colleague John Perry Barlow, has established a > foundation to address social and legal issues arising from the impact > on society of the increasingly pervasive use of computers as a means > of communication and information distribution. Wait a second. This all sounds well and good, but isn't Lotus corporation the company that just one the "look and feel" lawsuit RESTRICTING others from developing software using a defacto standard look and feel? Kind of makes you say "Hmmmmmm"... - lonce
jdd@db.toronto.edu (John DiMarco) (08/23/90)
lwyse@retina.bu.edu (Wyse) writes: > > NEW FOUNDATION ESTABLISHED TO ENCOURAGE COMPUTER-BASED COMMUNICATIONS > > POLICIES > > > > Washington, D.C., July 10, 1990 -- Mitchell D. Kapor, founder of > > Lotus Development Corporation and ON Technology, today announced that > > he, along with colleague John Perry Barlow, has established a > > foundation to address social and legal issues arising from the impact > > on society of the increasingly pervasive use of computers as a means > > of communication and information distribution. >Wait a second. This all sounds well and good, but isn't Lotus corporation >the company that just one the "look and feel" lawsuit RESTRICTING others >from developing software using a defacto standard look and feel? >Kind of makes you say "Hmmmmmm"... > - lonce Mitch Kapor is no longer with Lotus, and has not been for some time. He is not associated in any way with their current "look and feel" suit. John -- John DiMarco jdd@db.toronto.edu or jdd@db.utoronto.ca University of Toronto, CSRI BITNET: jdd%db.toronto.edu@relay.cs.net (416) 978-8609 UUCP: uunet!utai!db!jdd
mnemonic@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Mike Godwin) (08/23/90)
In article <LWYSE.90Aug22122657@retina.bu.edu> lwyse@retina.bu.edu (Wyse) writes: > >Wait a second. This all sounds well and good, but isn't Lotus corporation >the company that just one the "look and feel" lawsuit RESTRICTING others >from developing software using a defacto standard look and feel? > >Kind of makes you say "Hmmmmmm"... And if Apple wins a controversial lawsuit this year will you criticize Steve Jobs? Although the founder of Lotus Development, Kapor left the management of that company some years ago. He has since founded On Technology. Kapor has publicly criticized Lotus for its decisions to sue Paperback Software and Borland. It helps, when one makes accusations, to be at least moderately up to date on the subject matter of the accusation. --Mike Mike Godwin, UT Law School | --S is for 'Save me!' No longer a bar-exam nerd | --T is for 'Take it slow!' mnemonic@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | --O is for 'Oh, no!' (512) 346-4190 | --P is for 'Please, please don't go!'
petrilli@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Petrilli) (08/23/90)
In article <LWYSE.90Aug22122657@retina.bu.edu> lwyse@retina.bu.edu (Wyse) writes: > > > NEW FOUNDATION ESTABLISHED TO ENCOURAGE COMPUTER-BASED COMMUNICATIONS > > POLICIES > >Wait a second. This all sounds well and good, but isn't Lotus corporation >the company that just one the "look and feel" lawsuit RESTRICTING others >from developing software using a defacto standard look and feel? > >Kind of makes you say "Hmmmmmm"... > Obviously you were unaware of the fact that Mitch left Lotus a while back to form his own company, for many the same reasons, Steve levt Apple. Chris + Chris Petrilli "Opinons represented here | University of Texas at Austin do not necessarily | INTERNET: petrilli@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu represent those of a sane | SNAILMAIL: 429 Brady Lane, Austin, Texas, 78746 person. Take them as + PHONE: +1 512 327 0986 simply that."
cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ofer Inbar) (08/23/90)
In article <LWYSE.90Aug22122657@retina.bu.edu> lwyse@retina.bu.edu (Wyse) writes: > > > NEW FOUNDATION ESTABLISHED TO ENCOURAGE COMPUTER-BASED COMMUNICATIONS > > POLICIES > > > > Washington, D.C., July 10, 1990 -- Mitchell D. Kapor, founder of > > Lotus Development Corporation and ON Technology, today announced that > > he, along with colleague John Perry Barlow, has established a > > foundation to address social and legal issues arising from the impact > > on society of the increasingly pervasive use of computers as a means > > of communication and information distribution. > > >Wait a second. This all sounds well and good, but isn't Lotus corporation >the company that just one the "look and feel" lawsuit RESTRICTING others >from developing software using a defacto standard look and feel? > >Kind of makes you say "Hmmmmmm"... Kind of makes me say, "Hmmmmmm ... lots of people move to snap judgements without checking the facts..." Mitch Kapor may have founded Lotus, but he is no longer it's CEO - he left to start a new company (ON Technology, it's mentioned in the press release above). And he has publically stated that Lotus' 'look and feel' lawsuits were bad for the industry. > - lonce -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu -- WBRS (BRiS) -- WBRS@binah.cc.brandeis.edu WBRS@brandeis.bitnet "Good literature is about Love and War." "Junk Fiction is about Sex and Violence."
scott@kong.gatech.edu (Scott Coulter) (08/24/90)
In article <LWYSE.90Aug22122657@retina.bu.edu> lwyse@retina.bu.edu (Wyse) writes: > > NEW FOUNDATION ESTABLISHED TO ENCOURAGE COMPUTER-BASED COMMUNICATIONS > > POLICIES > > Washington, D.C., July 10, 1990 -- Mitchell D. Kapor, founder of > > Lotus Development Corporation and ON Technology, today announced that > >Wait a second. This all sounds well and good, but isn't Lotus corporation >the company that just one the "look and feel" lawsuit RESTRICTING others >from developing software using a defacto standard look and feel? > >Kind of makes you say "Hmmmmmm"... > - lonce We went over this one at great length just recently in another group (one of the gnu groups, I think). Just so it doesn't occupy this group for the next 2 weeks, I'll say it clearly and quickly: MITCH KAPOR NO LONGER WORKS FOR LOTUS. cheers, Scott D. Coulter uucp: ...!gatech!ics!scott Software Engineering Research Center InterNet: scott@ics.gatech.edu Georgia Institute of Technology "Everybody's talking to computers, they're all dancing to a drum machine..."
karish@mindcrf.UUCP (Chuck Karish) (08/28/90)
>Mitch Kapor left Lotus some time ago. He is now president of ON >Technology. He has nothing to do with Lotus' current attitudes >towards "look and feel". This newsgroup desperately needs a regular `frequently-answered questions' posting. A large proportion of the new subscribers will point out the same apparent contradiction, which I've already seen asked and answered many times in each of several other groups. In this case, the answers are more a problem than the questions, because so many people know and care about what's going on. -- Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com Mindcraft, Inc. (415) 323-9000
jef@well.sf.ca.us (Jef Poskanzer) (08/28/90)
In the referenced message, karish@mindcrf.UUCP (Chuck Karish) wrote: }This newsgroup desperately needs a regular `frequently-answered }questions' posting. Yes, we will have one by the time the groups have been around for a month. Basically the "about the EFF" posting, plus "Mitch Kapor isn't involved with Lotus anymore", plus whatever else comes up. --- Jef Jef Poskanzer jef@well.sf.ca.us {ucbvax, apple, hplabs}!well!jef "Hell-bent for leather!"
mkapor@well.sf.ca.us (Mitchell Kapor) (08/31/90)
There will be a frequently asked questions item posted here regularly. We are still getting our act together, so please be patient.