rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (12/13/90)
To get your name off the Lotus marketplace database, call 1-800-343-5414 When you hear the voice mail, press 3, then press 2. You'll hear music on hold until a person answers. Tell him or her you want to be taken off their database. Give your name and address. If you wish to register complaints about this, write to Lotus Development Corporation Atten: Marketplace Product Manager 55 Cambridge Parkway Cambridge, MA 02142 -- Please send comp.sources.unix-related mail to rsalz@uunet.uu.net. Use a domain-based address or give alternate paths, or you may lose out.
emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) (12/13/90)
In article <3089@litchi.bbn.com> rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes:
To get your name off the Lotus marketplace database, call
1-800-343-5414
After hours, this yields a recording, which is also a voice mail
system. It is possible to leave messages to an extension number. I
don't know the proper extension number for this purpose.
--Ed
emv@ox.comeliot@jester.rtp.dg.com (Topher Eliot) (12/13/90)
In article <EMV.90Dec12204650@crane.aa.ox.com>, emv@ox.com (Ed Vielmetti) writes: |> In article <3089@litchi.bbn.com> rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) writes: |> |> To get your name off the Lotus marketplace database, call |> 1-800-343-5414 |> |> After hours, this yields a recording, which is also a voice mail (Ah! You mean "after business hours". I thought you means "after waiting for hours") I got through to a very polite human in about 15 seconds. She also gave me the following places to write to, to arrange to get less junk mail: Direct Marketing Association Mail Preference Service P.O. Box 3861 New York, NY 10163-3861 (she mentioned that writing to these folks would result in your name being taken off the Lotus thing) Also: Equifax Options P.O. Box 740123 Atlanta, Georgia 30374-0123 (she said "this is where we get our information") -- Topher Eliot Data General Corporation eliot@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!eliot Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6371 Obviously, I speak for myself, not for DG.
cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) (12/14/90)
I was directed to "Presales" by the voicemail system. A woman took my name and address and said I would be deleted from the database. Interestingly, without any further ID or authorization, she also deleted my wife from the database (even though we don't share the same name) at my request. Also interesting: one of the numbers to which you're directed by Lotus voicemail is to "refresh your Marketplace meter." Gad, it's as if we were mere postage -- which, to the direct marketers, is what we are. Bob Jacobson
glass@portia.Stanford.EDU (Brett Glass) (12/26/90)
Before you go running off to the Direct Mail Association and file your name with them, remember: the tapes distributed by their "Mail Preference Service" are among the most widely distributed lists in the WORLD. You may not receive any junk mail, but any party -- including credit bureaus, government agencies, and listkeepers such as Dun & Bradstreet and TRW -- can find you via that list. In short, while you may save a few trees, your privacy is not protected at all. This scam highlights the need for strict laws requiring entities that sell lists to purge them on an individual basis, rather than relying on other lists which are also publicly available. In the meantime, if you are truly concerned about privacy, you may want to consider other methods of removing yourself from mailing lists. <BG>