learn@igloo.scum.com (Bill HMRP Vajk) (01/11/91)
In article <18154@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Sameer Parekh writes: > In article <26587@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Karl Denninger writes: > >Let's not forget that you can't sue the government, any prosecutor, or > >anyone who helps in such an investigation unless the government lets > >you do it. > That is terrible. I'm going to post 'Civil Disobedience.' I think > it would be a good idea, an inspirational piece. > (Is is copyrighted? Even if it is, I don't think Thourou (sp?) would > mind.) Harper & Row, Signet, Penguin and others are still publishing the piece (see Books In Print.) Of course, they don't have phone_cops (tm) :-) "I had gone down to the woods for other purposes. But whenever a man goes, men will pursue and paw him with their dirty institutions, and, if they can, constrain him to belong to their desparate odd-fellow society. It is true I might have resisted forcably with more or less effect, might have run "amok" against society; but I preferred that society should run "amok" against me, it being the desparate party. However, I was released the next day, obtained my mended shoe, and returned to the woods in season to get my dinner of huckleberries on Fair Haven Hill." [The Village] There is much to be said for Thoreau's methodology. While it is true he spent a day in the gaol, he wasn't additionally charged with resisting arrest or "obstruction of justice." He had a hand in creating the circumstance, and in the resolution. I think Thoreau's example is good if confronted by the Secret Service at your door. Thoreau quoted _Confucian Analects_ in closing the chapter. "You who govern public affairs, what need have you to employ punishments? Love virtue, and the people will be virtuous. The virtues of the superior man are like the wind; the virtues of the common man are like the grass; the grass, when the wind passes over it, bends." Bill Vajk | Better to bend than to have a broken back.
bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) (01/12/91)
>> (Is is copyrighted? Even if it is, I don't think Thourou (sp?) would >> mind.) > >Harper & Row, Signet, Penguin and others are still publishing the piece >(see Books In Print.) Of course, they don't have phone_cops (tm) :-) Many out of copyright works are published regularly. The Bible comes to mind as an example. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | {xylogics,uunet}!world!bzs | bzs@world.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD
cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) (01/13/91)
Only the form in which the Bible is published is copyright protected. The text is in the public domain. Bob Jacobson
bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) (01/13/91)
>Only the form in which the Bible is published is copyright protected. >The text is in the public domain. > >Bob Jacobson Unless the translation from older sources is new, in which case the translation is considered original work and the entire text is copyrightable (e.g. if someone started with the hebrew and greek versions and produced a new english translation that result could be copyrighted in its entirety.) This does happen from time to time, as a better example, most of the famous Russian novels (Anna Karenina, War and Peace) are copyrighted in their english form. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | {xylogics,uunet}!world!bzs | bzs@world.std.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD