[net.ham-radio] Amateur.vs_CB

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (11/21/84)

> THEY  ARE USED SOLELY FOR PERSONAL SATISFACTION, NOT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.

Actually, there is no regulation that prohibits me from using Citizen's Band
the course of my business.  On the whole a fairly accurate article.

-Ron
Ham radio, not chidren's band.

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (11/21/84)

> 
>     AMATEUR RADIO,  ON THE  OTHER HAND,  IS QUITE  DIFFERENT.   AMATEUR RADIO
> OPERATORS, SOMETIMES  REFERRED TO AS  "HAMS," MUST TAKE  FOUR DIFFERENT TESTS
> ADMINISTERED BY  THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION.   THESE TESTS CONSIST
> OF MORSE  CODE, SENDING AND RECEIVING, ELECTRONIC  THEORY ON HOW THEIR RADIOS
> AND  ANTENNAS WORK, RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND  MATH.  AFTER PASSING ALL FOUR
> OF THESE TEST, HAMS ARE THEN ISSUED A LICENSE AND CALL SIGN.
> 
My first HAM ticket didn't have any MATH test and my later ticket didn't
involve Morse code sending (only a multiple choice receiving test).


>     MOST HAM RADIO OPERATORS BUILD  THEIR  OWN  EQUIPMENT  OR  RESURRECT  OLD
> SURPLUS JUNK.   THERE IS LOTS OF EXPERIMENTAL  RADIO WORK BEING DONE BY HAMS,
> SINCE MOST  OF  THEM  ARE  ELECTRONICALLY  TECHINCAL  PEOPLE  BY  PROFESSION.
> MARCONI, THE INVENTER OF THE "WIRELESS" (RADIO), WAS HIMSELF AN AMATEUR RADIO
> OPERATOR AND EXPERIMENTER.
> 
With the advent of cheap Japanese rigs, a lot of the homebrew and commercial
retrofit is disappearing, Sigh.

abc@brl-tgr.ARPA (Brint Cooper ) (11/23/84)

> 
>     FIRST OF  ALL, LET'S  CONSIDER CITIZEN  BAND OPERATERS.   PEOPLE  WHO ARE
> CITIZENS  OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICIA CAN APPLY AND HOLD A LICENSE.  ALL
> THEY  HAVE TO DO IS JUST  FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AND  SEND IT TO THE FEDERAL
> COMMUNICATIONS  COMMISSION.  SEVERAL WEEKS LATER  THEY HAVE THEIR LICENSE AND
> CALL  SIGN.  NEXT, THEY GO TO THE LOCAL RADIO SHACK OUTLET STORE AND PURCHASE
> A TWO-WAY RADIO WITH ANTENNA; THEN AWAY THEY GO.

Actually, I believe that the FCC no longer issues CB licenses; they have
"deregulated" CB radio.  You simply purchase one and talk.

Brint

mikey@trsvax.UUCP (11/28/84)

I believe that commercial use of the CB channels is limited to certain
channels.  It may be off the book, but back in the 60's CB channels
were dedicated for specific uses.  Certain channels could be used for
talking between different licenses, other channels were for talking
between unit of the same license, i.e. for a mobile to call HIS base rig,
and other channels were for commercial use.  In practice, noone cares
about anyrule on the CB, but I don't know if the restrictions are still
on the books.

mikey at trsvax (KA5MJQ)

wn9nbt@ecn-ee.UUCP (11/29/84)

Also, Childrens Band (sorry, C.B.) was intended to be a "Business"
radio system at it's creation.  Units could only talk to other
units under the same license, except for a few circumstances such
as asking directions, emergencies, /etc.  Now CB licenses aren't
issued (or required) any longer, and a sizable number of CB'ers are  
running considerably more than 5 watts, illegally of course.
Most Police cars with CB's listen to channel 19 (or the local 
"highway" channel) to find out when their hiding places are 
given away by "Bear" reports when running stationary radar.
Most other times they are off or squelched tight enough that
they don't have to listen to the constant garbage on the
channel.
.....Dave

mpackard@uok.UUCP (12/01/84)

>	MOST HAM RADIO OPERATORS BUILD THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT...
This should say 'SOME' as it is now way cheaper to buy a radio
and interface equipment, then to build it.  MOST go this route
and spend all their time jamming each other or shooting the
breeze about antenna's (the only thing built anymore).  When I
say jamming I mean overt and the things we call contests??

parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) (12/02/84)

>                                                              THOMAS A. BOZA
>                                                                   WB7ASR
> 
>                  HAM RADIO COMPAIRED TO CITIZEN BAND RADIO
> 
>     THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF HOBBYIST SHORTWAVE COMMUNICATIONS RADIO OPERATORS,
> CITIZEN  BAND AND AMATEUR  "HAM." 

	gut reaction: Ouch!

>                                                        RADIO STATIONS  CAN BE
> OPERATED FROM MANY LOCATIONS, INCLUDING HOME, CAR, BOAT, AIR-PLANE, ETC., BUT
> THEY  ARE USED SOLELY FOR PERSONAL SATISFACTION, NOT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
  
  	CB can and is used for business purposes.

>     FIRST OF  ALL, LET'S  CONSIDER CITIZEN  BAND OPERATERS.   PEOPLE  WHO ARE
> CITIZENS  OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICIA CAN APPLY AND HOLD A LICENSE.  ALL
> THEY  HAVE TO DO IS JUST  FILL OUT AN APPLICATION AND  SEND IT TO THE FEDERAL
> COMMUNICATIONS  COMMISSION.  SEVERAL WEEKS LATER  THEY HAVE THEIR LICENSE AND
> CALL  SIGN.  NEXT, THEY GO TO THE LOCAL RADIO SHACK OUTLET STORE AND PURCHASE
> A TWO-WAY RADIO WITH ANTENNA; THEN AWAY THEY GO.

  	The FCC never licensed CB operators, only CB stations.
  	A recent rule change eliminated CB station licenses completely.

> IT'S SO CONGESTED,  YOU CAN'T EVEN TALK  OVER ONE MILE AWAY.   ONE REASON FOR
> THIS  IS THAT THERE ARE OVER FOURTY  MILLION CITIZEN BAND LICENSES ISSUED, AS
> WELL AS ALL THE UNLICENSED OPERATORS.

  	Again, there is/was no such thing as a "licenced CB operator", 
  	but there were "licensed CB stations."

> 			       		HE [hams] CAN OPERATE AM, SSB, FM, FAST
> AND SLOW SCAN TELEVISION, SATELLITES, RADIOTELETYPE, FACSIMILE, AND COMPUTERS
> WITH OTHER HAM OPERATORS ALL OVER THE WORLD.

  	Hams can use other modes, like morse code and pulse, transmit signals
	for the purpose of remote control (e.g. model aircraft, home control
	systems [home-made garage door openers], etc.), and construct
	repeaters.

>     MOST HAM RADIO OPERATORS BUILD  THEIR  OWN  EQUIPMENT  OR  RESURRECT  OLD
> SURPLUS JUNK.
 
  	Not true any more; most hams purchase their equipment, although 
	a few build receivers and transmitters.

				73 de AJ9S
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parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) (12/02/84)

   >#R:isosvax:-17600:uok:2800021:000:365
   >uok!mpackard    Nov 30 16:50:00 1984
   >
   >
   >>	MOST HAM RADIO OPERATORS BUILD THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT...
   >This should say 'SOME' as it is now way cheaper to buy a radio
   >and interface equipment, then to build it.

   >MOST go this route
   >and spend all their time jamming each other or shooting the
   >breeze about antenna's (the only thing built anymore).  When I
   >say jamming I mean overt and the things we call contests??
   >

Non-ham readers, please note that the above paragraph constitutes a flame
rather than a statement of fact.
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