ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (11/11/90)
I did a little more research today on the Panasync, to perhaps reveal
some bad news. First thanks to George W Dinolt
(dinolt%wdl45@wdl1.wdl.fac.com) for providing me with specs of the
ST's monitor output, and thanks for these people for providing it
through the grapevine: Harri Valkama LAKE<hv@uwasa.fi>, Lea Viljanen
<ladybug@clinet.fi>, and ldp.dec.com!weaver@decwrl.dec.com (Dave,
DTN 297-7141, MRO2-4/E33).
Atari
low medium high
------- ------- -------
Horizontal Frequency: 15.8kHz 31.5kHz 35.7kHz
Vertical Frequency: 60Hz 60Hz 71.2kHz
Horizontal Resolution: 320 640 640
Vertical Resolution: 200 200 400
I called one place (Lyco) and asked for the vertical frequency of the
monitor. They said it was 50 to 90, which should work with the ST.
Then they said the horizontal was 30 to 37. This looked a little
strange, so I called another place (Harmony Computers in NY) and
asked the same questions. They replied the same. Which means, if I'm
not mistaken, that there would be something wrong with the ST's low
resolution, since it's lower than 30. If anyone can find something
wrong with my assumptions or data, PLEASE let me know. I also asked
about the frequency bandwidth, which Talon recommends should be 35Mhz
or better, and neither of the places knew what it was on the Panasync.
Talon also recommends that the vertical auto-sync be 15 - 36Khz or
better and the horizontal auto-sync be 45 - 90Khz or better.
This puts a real damper on things. At least I know this BEFORE buying
the monitor.
(Howard Chu, what was the horizonal frequency on your monitor again?)
--
Ed Krimen ...............................................
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In Article: <1990Nov11.023940.10838@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes... > > Atari > low medium high > ------- ------- ------- >Horizontal Frequency: 15.8kHz 31.5kHz 35.7kHz >Vertical Frequency: 60Hz 60Hz 71.2kHz >Horizontal Resolution: 320 640 640 >Vertical Resolution: 200 200 400 > The above data for the medium resolution is wrong. Both low and medium resolution have the same Horizontal and Vertical Frequencies (those listed above for low resolution). Both low and medium resolution are compatable with standard color TV sets. (on European STs these rates change e.g. Vertical is 50Hz, not sure of Horz.) R. Tim Coslet Usenet: R_Tim_Coslet@cup.portal.com BIX: r.tim_coslet
bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) (11/13/90)
In article <1990Nov11.023940.10838@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: >I did a little more research today on the Panasync... various specs deleted questioning whether the Panasync will work with ST low resolution... > Ed Krimen ............................................... There have been definite reports on GEnie that the Panasync will work in all resolutions with the ST - Dr. Bob has one apparently (MVG software), and I believe Gadgets has one. -- ################################################################################ # Bill Sheppard -- bills@microware.com -- {uunet,sun}!mcrware!mwca!bill # # Microware Systems Corporation --- OS-9: Seven generations beyond __/_!! # #######Opinions expressed are my own, though you'd be wise to adopt them!#######
stevela@beach.csulb.edu (Steve La) (11/13/90)
In article <1990Nov11.023940.10838@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes:
- I did a little more research today on the Panasync, to perhaps reveal
- some bad news. First thanks to George W Dinolt
- (dinolt%wdl45@wdl1.wdl.fac.com) for providing me with specs of the
- ST's monitor output, and thanks for these people for providing it
- through the grapevine: Harri Valkama LAKE<hv@uwasa.fi>, Lea Viljanen
- <ladybug@clinet.fi>, and ldp.dec.com!weaver@decwrl.dec.com (Dave,
- DTN 297-7141, MRO2-4/E33).
-
- Atari
- low medium high
- ------- ------- -------
- Horizontal Frequency: 15.8kHz 31.5kHz 35.7kHz
- Vertical Frequency: 60Hz 60Hz 71.2kHz
- Horizontal Resolution: 320 640 640
- Vertical Resolution: 200 200 400
-
-
- I called one place (Lyco) and asked for the vertical frequency of the
- monitor. They said it was 50 to 90, which should work with the ST.
- Then they said the horizontal was 30 to 37. This looked a little
- strange, so I called another place (Harmony Computers in NY) and
- asked the same questions. They replied the same. Which means, if I'm
- not mistaken, that there would be something wrong with the ST's low
- resolution, since it's lower than 30. If anyone can find something
- wrong with my assumptions or data, PLEASE let me know. I also asked
- about the frequency bandwidth, which Talon recommends should be 35Mhz
- or better, and neither of the places knew what it was on the Panasync.
-
- Talon also recommends that the vertical auto-sync be 15 - 36Khz or
- better and the horizontal auto-sync be 45 - 90Khz or better.
-
- This puts a real damper on things. At least I know this BEFORE buying
- the monitor.
-
- (Howard Chu, what was the horizonal frequency on your monitor again?)
-
- --
- Ed Krimen ...............................................
- ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico
- ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661
- / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
Ed,
I used the Thompson's UltraScan monitor on my Mega4ST. I paid $375
for this multisync monitor approximately 3 years ago. It's a great
monitor! Multisync, multipurpose! It works with all 3 graphic modes
on my ST. Lots of connectors in the back. I plug my MegaST
(Low/Med/Hi), My VCR, TV turner, Genesis system, and my IBM 386
compatible running VGA, all in the the same monitor!!! The bad news
is that Thompson (french company) is no longer sell this monitor. I
heard that the Mishubishi's DiamondScan monitor is the same as the
Thompson's. I saw the DiamondScan in the local computer swapmeet, and
it costs $350 brand new! You might want to give it a try.
Good luck,
-Steve SteveLa@csulb.eduekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (11/13/90)
bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) writes: - There have been definite reports on GEnie that the Panasync will - work in all resolutions with the ST - Dr. Bob has one apparently - (MVG software), and I believe Gadgets has one. Thanks for the info! I sent Dave Small some mail via one of his many possible Usenet addresses, but never got anything. I heard he had one set up on a TT. Do you think you could find out how they are in medium and low res? Better yet, what's MVG software's phone number, if they have one? I'd really appreciate it! Thanks! -- Ed Krimen ............................................... ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico ||| INTERNET: ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu FREENET: al661 / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 FIDONET: 1:119/4.0
stevela@beach.csulb.edu (Steve La) (11/21/90)
In article <1990Nov13.063936.21353@ecst.csuchico.edu> ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) writes: > This is one of the monitors that Talon recommends. However, I was > advised not to get it because it may not look good in monochrome. > Apparently, the reason they call it a DiamondScan is that the pixels > are somehow in the shape of a diamond and it wouldn't be clear enough > for mono. The monochrome mode is not as sharp as the Atari SM124 monitor. You need to adjust the 'sharpness' on the monochrome mode. The display is quite good in this mode. I saw a multisync monitor from one of the booth (Wutek) in the Anaheim Atari Show that has a very good display in the monochrome mode. The company, Wutek (spell??) is located in southern California. Good luck. -Steve SteveLa@beach.csulb.edu California State University Long Beach