[comp.sys.atari.st.tech] Spectre GCR & SCSI devices

gjh@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Graham Higgins) (01/07/91)

According to the latest Gadgets Newsletter, the MegaTalk board offers a SCSI
port which will allow SCSI devices other than HD's to be used under Spectre.

What's the position if I have an ICD-HostAdaptor-driven SCSI bus on my
(non-Mega) ST? Can I hook a scanner on the SCSI bus and use it under Spectre
(given the appropriate s/w)?

Thanks for any info.

Cheers,

Graham
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dsmall@well.sf.ca.us (David Small) (01/16/91)

Graham, we only are compatible with mass storage media that is accessed
through ACSI<->SCSI adaptors, like ICD's. The software and logic
incompatabilities
made it impossible for us to get the Mac's _SCSIDispatch to work right
with ACSI stuff.

	So, we stuck the correct SCSI chip at the correct address with the
correct wiring-pinouts to match a Mac Plus in the MegaTalk board, and THAT
will accept hand-scanners, etc, in Mac mode, plus hooking into Appletalk or
LocalTalk networks.

	Hope this clears it up. Good 	question!

	-- thanks, Dave / Gadgets

gjh@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Graham Higgins) (01/18/91)

++   Graham, we only are compatible with mass storage media that is accessed
++   through ACSI<->SCSI adaptors, like ICD's. The software and logic
++   incompatabilities
++   made it impossible for us to get the Mac's _SCSIDispatch to work right
++   with ACSI stuff.

Understood that Mac s/w won't be able to use hardware which is designed to 
the ACSI i/f spec, e.g. ACSI HD's. 

However, my setup is a couple of ST506 mechs driven by an Omti 3527A RLL SCSI
controller card which is connected to the ST via an ICD ACSI-> SCSI host
adaptor. Which would seem to satisfy your criterion stated above.

As far as I understood, having the ICD SCSI adaptor gave me "true" SCSI. I
wanted to explore the possibility of hooking up either a scanner or a CD-ROM to
the SCSI bus made available by the ICD ACSI->SCSI adaptor.

Your comment above suggests that this *is* possible. However, since posting the
query, I have been told that SCSI devices on the Mac tend to want to talk
directly to the SCSI chip and hence don't work under Spectre. So far no-one has
been able to give me a definitive answer and with CD-ROM down to 280-odd pounds
(from Corporate Computing, advertising in the UK edition of Computer Shopper)
and with Atari being so recalcitrant about re-marketing the CDAR stuff, I
thought it'd be a good route to follow.

++	   So, we stuck the correct SCSI chip at the correct address with the
++   correct wiring-pinouts to match a Mac Plus in the MegaTalk board, and THAT
++   will accept hand-scanners, etc, in Mac mode, plus hooking into Appletalk or
++   LocalTalk networks.

This is, of course, the best solution --- for those who have Megas --- guess
which I *don't* have (sigh). 

++	   Hope this clears it up. Good 	question!

It's given me renewed hope anyway! In view of the most favourable
interpretation of your answer, I'll see if I can lay my hands on a
SCSI-connectable scanner & s/w and see if it cuts the mustard.

Cheers,

Graham
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