[comp.sys.atari.st.tech] bombs on an STE, GCR mouse

pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (02/14/91)

From article <4824@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl>, by avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink):
> 
>   Has any STE owner ever had the problem of two bombs (bus error) appearing
> on the screen after one of the alert boxes `no disk in drive A' or
> `Disk in drive A has been write-protected'? Can anyone explain this strange
> behaviour of my computer (which already caused me to loose MANY files)?
> 
> 
> 
> Annius Groenink
> De Mamuchetweg 5
> 3732 AK De Bilt
> The Netherlands
> AVGROENI@CS.RUU

Hey, I think I get it on my (homebrew connector) Tandy drive B with my
ancient 520ST ('85 vintage) - it doesn't happen on drive A.  No idea
why - would love to fix it.

I also have similar request.  I recently got Spectre GCR - well, I got
it before the ROM shortage 8-) and I have a mouse crashing problem.  I
ended up trashing my system 6.05 disks on version 2.65c of Spectre.
Turns out that they're not compatible - and I didn't know it - or make
backups from the Spectre menu until too late.  I had assumed that the
mouse crashes were due to the previously trashed and not properly
installed system driver.  However, I get the same problem currently
running Spectre 3.0, which supports sys 6.05.  I found this out when I
realized that I could boot from the disk utility disk.  Since I'm
getting a fresh copy of everything from a local mac store soon, I want
to fix this (Rats, first the NEC drive to fix, then this!).  

The symptom is that the mouse freezes on the screen, and I then trash
my system disk, since the keyboard is not responding either, and mac
menus don't have default key equivalents anyway 8-(.  Do I need a new
IKBD processor, or a new machine?  If only TTs were class B approved!
This risky store-in-memory behavior of the mac file system is souring
me on the whole deal.  I know, Un*x also can crash horribly when it
loses power - but at least *it* has fsck!  A "busy or defective" app
on a mac does not seem to be fixed by the disk repair program (humph!).

Bob Pegram

pegram@griffin.uvm.edu
	or
...!uvm-gen!pegram

dodgson@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Harry Dodgson) (02/14/91)

In article <1991Feb13.201052.21311@uvm.edu>, pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes:
> From article <4824@ruuinf.cs.ruu.nl>, by avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink):
> 
> The symptom is that the mouse freezes on the screen, and I then trash
> my system disk, since the keyboard is not responding either, and mac
> menus don't have default key equivalents anyway 8-(.  Do I need a new
> IKBD processor, or a new machine?  If only TTs were class B approved!
> This risky store-in-memory behavior of the mac file system is souring
> me on the whole deal.  I know, Un*x also can crash horribly when it
> loses power - but at least *it* has fsck!  A "busy or defective" app
> on a mac does not seem to be fixed by the disk repair program (humph!).
> 
> Bob Pegram

	If you know someone with a REAL Mac, have them install key
equivalents into the Finder resources with Resedit.  That may help
that problem.  Also, the "busy or defective" error is usually automatically
reset by my Mac SE when I reboot, since it knows that the program cannot
be busy.  The 'Busy' bit can also be reset with Resedit or a Mac DA called
DeskZap which I use a lot.  I have crashed my Mac a lot and have never
trashed the system files or any of the program files.  I just reboot and
continue on.  I have lost work in progress though.  For slightly buggy programs
like DMCS ver 2.0, I use an autosave DA so I don't lose too much when it
crashes (it doesn't handle MIDI active sensing very well).

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