twmanino@ncsuvx.enet.dec.com (TONY W MANINO) (02/07/91)
Hello tech-types, I (and several others who have e-mailed me) am in need of a hard disk defragmentation utility. I have an ICD host adapter, TOS 1.4, and am using 32 meg partitions. I understand that there are older utilities that will not work in this situation. Is there such an animal that will work reliably with this configuration? PD/Shareware/Commercial - I would like to know about any. Thanks folks, Tony twmanino@eos.ncsu.edu
gjh@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Graham Higgins) (02/08/91)
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pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (02/09/91)
From article <1991Feb7.090026@ncsuvx.enet.dec.com>, by twmanino@ncsuvx.enet.dec.com (TONY W MANINO): > Hello tech-types, > > I (and several others who have e-mailed me) am in need of a hard disk > defragmentation utility. I have an ICD host adapter, TOS 1.4, and am > using 32 meg partitions. I understand that there are older utilities > that will not work in this situation. > > Is there such an animal that will work reliably with this configuration? > PD/Shareware/Commercial - I would like to know about any. > > > Thanks folks, > Tony > twmanino@eos.ncsu.edu I thought Dave Beckemeyer would answer this 8-). Get his Hard Disk Sentry program it should work on larger partitions (I hope so, I keep meaning to buy it). Dave said it would do that himself here on the net some while back. I could dig up my copy of the posting if necessary. ciao, Bob Pegram pegram@griffin.uvm.edu or ...!uvm-gen!pegram
bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) (02/12/91)
> I (and several others who have e-mailed me) am in need of a hard disk > defragmentation utility. I have an ICD host adapter, TOS 1.4, and am i seem to remember trying one from atari called chkdsk or something like that. it was slower than molasses, and the user interface really sucked. i would stay away from that one. i wish the author of tuneup would fix his util for large partitions. sans that problem, i have used it for many years with great success. i think beckmeyer had something along the same lines too. -- bang: uunet!cadence!bammi jwahar r. bammi domain: bammi@cadence.com GEnie: J.Bammi CIS: 71515,155
david@bdt.COM (David Beckemeyer) (02/12/91)
Yes. HD Sentry will work with larger partions, even using the "logical block" scheme that HDX 3.x (and now 4.x for the TT) use. It is a commercial program with a sugg. retail price of $49.95. It is in distribution and should be available at a loval store or mail-order house. It can also be ordered directly from Beckemeyer Development by calling (415) 530-9637 on Monday, Wednesday, or Friday betwen 10AM and 5PM Pacific time. You can also call the BBS at (415) 530-9682. -- David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.COM) | "Beer! Now there's a temporary Beckemeyer Development Tools | solution." -- Homer Simpson
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (02/12/91)
In article <BAMMI.91Feb11140033@acae127.cadence.com> bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes: > i seem to remember trying one from atari called chkdsk or something > like that. it was slower than molasses, and the user interface really > sucked. i would stay away from that one. i wish the author of tuneup > would fix his util for large partitions. sans that problem, i have > used it for many years with great success. > > i think beckmeyer had something along the same lines too. > -- > bang: uunet!cadence!bammi jwahar r. bammi Note ; CHKDSK3 is not for general release as its for Developers only, but I would like to know more about Molasses, Have not heard about that one, I do have 2 German ones but they don't do 32meg partitions, but one of these lets you set your R/W options and some otheres, but can't decypher the German, it gives you full report on the files that its working on, the R/W option lets you set which files you wan't at the front, (read) and which ones at the back (write), but there is another option that I can't work out, I don't know if its PD, as there is no copyright notice from what I can see.. -- Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand...
stigvi@Lise.Unit.NO (Stig Vidar Hovland) (02/12/91)
In article <BAMMI.91Feb11140033@acae127.cadence.com>, bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes: |> i seem to remember trying one from atari called chkdsk or something |> like that. it was slower than molasses, and the user interface really |> sucked. i would stay away from that one. i wish the author of tuneup |> would fix his util for large partitions. sans that problem, i have |> used it for many years with great success. Chkdsk3 is not that bad. It is fast and can handle partitions > 16MB. Stig Vidar Hovland
dclemans@mentorg.com (Dave Clemans @ APD x1292) (02/16/91)
bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes: > > I (and several others who have e-mailed me) am in need of a hard disk > > defragmentation utility. I have an ICD host adapter, TOS 1.4, and am > > i seem to remember trying one from atari called chkdsk or something > like that. it was slower than molasses, and the user interface really > sucked. i would stay away from that one. i wish the author of tuneup > would fix his util for large partitions. sans that problem, i have > used it for many years with great success. > > i think beckmeyer had something along the same lines too. I'm the author of Tuneup, such as it is. (Though not of its documentation.) A version does exist that should handle "big" partitions, though it's never gotten any testing (that I know of) beyond local people. It was sent many months ago to Michtron for more general testing & release, but I've haven't heard anything since then. I also have no idea as to what its current status is since the sale of Michtron to that New Jersey firm. As I said above, I haven't heard anything from Michtron/etc. in many months. I don't even know how to contact the New Jersey company that supposedly bought Michtron. If it was definitely clear that I legally could do so, I would be willing to give "special" updates (with the understanding that this version has not been as extensively tested as previous versions.) However I will not spend any money to get such a legal clarification. dgc
pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) (02/22/91)
From article <1991Feb15.231336.4325@mentorg.com>, by dclemans@mentorg.com (Dave Clemans @ APD x1292): > bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes: >> > I (and several others who have e-mailed me) am in need of a hard disk >> > defragmentation utility. I have an ICD host adapter, TOS 1.4, and am >> >> i seem to remember trying one from atari called chkdsk or something >> like that. it was slower than molasses, and the user interface really >> sucked. i would stay away from that one. i wish the author of tuneup >> would fix his util for large partitions. sans that problem, i have >> used it for many years with great success. >> >> i think beckmeyer had something along the same lines too. > > I'm the author of Tuneup, such as it is. (Though not of its documentation.) The worst part 8-). > A version does exist that should handle "big" partitions, though it's never > gotten any testing (that I know of) beyond local people. It was sent many > months ago to Michtron for more general testing & release, but I've haven't > heard anything since then. > I also have no idea as to what its current status is since the > sale of Michtron to that New Jersey firm. As I said above, I haven't > heard anything from Michtron/etc. in many months. I don't even know > how to contact the New Jersey company that supposedly bought Michtron. Sorry to hear about that. > If it was definitely clear that I legally could do so, I would be > willing to give "special" updates (with the understanding that this > version has not been as extensively tested as previous versions.) > However I will not spend any money to get such a legal clarification. > dgc If you can give patches or end up having somebody selling (and upgrading old versions, I hope 8-) please fix two more things. 1. Write the fats and directories asap (as you move the files) instead of at the end of everything - PC defraggers do that and can be stopped in the middle of things and lose nothing, or have a blackout and only lose 1 file - which a utility can sometimes recover. The time saved in doing it the old way (1st move all files, then write fats and then directories) is not worth the agony IMHO (and is not so slow on the PCs either, in my experience 8-). 2. Run a spell checker on the strings in your code 8-). I'm tired of reading that such and such a file is now "contigous" ("contiguous" is the correct spelling 8-). Good luck, (for all of us, if you can swing distributing the fixes 8-). Bob Pegram pegram@griffin.uvm.edu or ...!uvm-gen!pegram
vsnyder@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder) (02/23/91)
In article <1991Feb21.191927.6628@uvm.edu> pegram@kira.UUCP (Robert B. Pegram) writes: >From article <1991Feb15.231336.4325@mentorg.com>, by >dclemans@mentorg.com (Dave Clemans @ APD x1292): >1. Write the fats and directories asap (as you move the files) instead >of at the end of everything - PC defraggers do that and can be stopped >in the middle of things and lose nothing... I suggested to Norton that they modify SD to write files temporarily into the HIGHEST numbered free cluster instead of the LOWEST numbered free cluster. The effect of stashing a file in the LOWEST numbered free cluster is that it gets moved over and over and over and over and over ... again. Stashing it in the HIGHEST numbered free cluster increases head motion, but reduces the probability it'll have to be moved again before being moved to its final resting place. Overall, it should make the de-fragger substantially faster. I hope to see a de-fragger of the kind desired by Pegram, with the above modification to the algorithm. Van. -- vsnyder@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov ames!elroy!jato!vsnyder vsnyder@jato.uucp