tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) (05/13/91)
Has anyone out there mounted their ST in a different case or housing? I am thinking about putting mine in a 19" rackmount (like they use for audio effects processors, etc.) unit. Since I have a 1040STF, I'd have to detach the keyboard, move the disk drive to the front, and rearrange stuff internally. How difficult is this project? How dangerous? Please note that I don't plan on doing anything that involves sawing circuit boards in half or even modifying the electronics at all beyond what is necessary to detach the keyboard or attach a Mega keyboard. I am also thinking abotu rackmounting my modem and HD (Syquest). My vision for this project is to have a rolling rackmount unit with the computer and modem and HD which is sturdy enough to transport easily (i.e. unplug power, monitor, and phone cables and then roll into the truck) Any suggestions, names of suppliers of stuff I would need, better ways to proceed? Am I just a fool for thinking I can do this? Thanks, Todd -- = INTERNET-> tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga, UT Dept. of Drama) = = = = ' The dry grass will set fire to the damp grass ' = = = = African proverb brought to the Americas by slaves =
rcte2p@menudo.uh.edu (Paul Stephen Sears) (05/13/91)
tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) boldy writes in article <48901@ut-emx.uucp> >Has anyone out there mounted their ST in a different case or housing? I am >thinking about putting mine in a 19" rackmount (like they use for audio >effects processors, etc.) unit. Since I have a 1040STF, I'd have to detach >the keyboard, move the disk drive to the front, and rearrange stuff >internally. How difficult is this project? How dangerous? Please note that >I don't plan on doing anything that involves sawing circuit boards in half >or even modifying the electronics at all beyond what is necessary to detach >the keyboard or attach a Mega keyboard. I once put my 520ST into a p-clone case. I had to detach the keyboard. It worked fine and I was able to put my diskdrive in the slot in the case. The problem I ran into was with the keybard. It seems that there are 17 lines to the keyboard. I got some trunk wire I used to install alarms with and it was 20 conductor cable. I located a 17 pin connector (it was hard at the time!) and I soldered the wires from the trunk line to the connectors (one on each end). Then I just left my keyboard in the old 520's case, and connect the cable. But, the cable was very stiff as it was 20 conductor and my keyboard would not stay were I wanted it because it was so light... My question is: All all 17 wires need?? > >I am also thinking abotu rackmounting my modem and HD (Syquest). My vision >for this project is to have a rolling rackmount unit with the computer and >modem and HD which is sturdy enough to transport easily (i.e. unplug power, >monitor, and phone cables and then roll into the truck) I want to hear how this comes out!! > >Any suggestions, names of suppliers of stuff I would need, better ways >to proceed? > >Am I just a fool for thinking I can do this? > >Thanks, > >Todd > * Paul Sears * Technology *** |"The greater an individual's power * The University of Houston *** | over others, the greater the evil that * RCTE2P@Jetson.uh.edu * * * | might possibly originate with him." * RCTE2P@menudo.uh.edu * * * | - PROPAGANDA, from A Secret Wish (CD) -- * Paul Sears * Technology *** |"The greater an individual's power * The University of Houston *** | over others, the greater the evil that * RCTE2P@Jetson.uh.edu * * * | might possibly originate with him." * RCTE2P@menudo.uh.edu * * * | - PROPAGANDA, from A Secret Wish (CD)
hofer@urz.unibas.ch (Remo Hofer) (05/14/91)
In article <1991May13.165627.11592@menudo.uh.edu>, rcte2p@menudo.uh.edu (Paul Stephen Sears) writes: > tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) boldy writes in article <48901@ut-emx.uucp> >>Has anyone out there mounted their ST in a different case or housing? I am > I once put my 520ST into a p-clone case. I had to detach the keyboard. > It worked fine and I was able to put my diskdrive in the slot in the > case. The problem I ran into was with the keybard. It seems that there > are 17 lines to the keyboard. I got some trunk wire I used to install > My question is: All all 17 wires need?? No. If you connect the mouse and the joystick direktly to the keyboard, only 5 connection to the cpu are required. If you drop the keyboard reset, only 4 lines are needed. I detached my keyboard some time ago, so it would be hard for me to find the pinout in my docus. But if nobody else has the info, I could search it in my archive. ;-) Remo Hofer -- RFC822: <hofer@urz.unibas.ch> X.400: S=hofer;OU=urz;O=unibas;P=SWITCH;A=ARCOM;C=CH
kawakami@bigbang.Berkeley.EDU (John Kawakami) (05/14/91)
Q: are all 17 wires needed from the 520 ST keyboard to the console?
A: No, only six or seven are. The remainder are to connect the mouse
to the keyboard controller. If you can trace these wires out, you
can build a mouse port and joystick port onto a small board and connect
them that way.'
ATDT 96427400
Comment:
I don't think that moving the keyboard away this way is so hot after
all. I think a better alternative is to get an IBM keyboard interface.
The PC keyboards are nicer, and have coily cables.
I think such an interface would be easy to build: 2 uarts and some
control logic. The problem is, I don't know the PC keyboard's baud
rate.
Q: does anyone out there know the PC keyboard baud rate?
John Kawakami kawakami@ocf.berkeley.edu
ucbvax!ocf.berkeley.edu!kawakamipaulm@dorjam.UUCP (Owner and User) (05/14/91)
In article <1991May13.165627.11592@menudo.uh.edu>, rcte2p@menudo.uh.edu (Paul Stephen Sears) writes: > > My question is: All all 17 wires need?? > I think that the keyboard only needs 3 or 4 wires max. The rest of the wires go right straight to the mouse/joystick conectors. If you place these connectors with the keyboard unit that cuts your wire count down to where a PC keyboard cable works fine. I know, I've done it. ----- UUCP: ..!ccicpg!dorjam!paulm -----
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (05/18/91)
In article <48901@ut-emx.uucp>, tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) writes: >Has anyone out there mounted their ST in a different case or housing? I am > >I am also thinking about rackmounting my modem and HD (Syquest). My vision >for this project is to have a rolling rackmount unit with the computer and >modem and HD which is sturdy enough to transport easily (i.e. unplug power, >monitor, and phone cables and then roll into the truck) > >Any suggestions, names of suppliers of stuff I would need, better ways >to proceed? > >Am I just a fool for thinking I can do this? > There is a rack mounted ST clone (without propriety chips) available in Germany for musicians (so no, you are not a fool). As for doing it yourself, why not? You may get a suggestion to call Tech-Specialities and ask about their CPU cases. Don't, the company is bad news. I think you can buy empty audio cases through the mail (I would try Computer Shopper). A little drilling and gluing and bam, ST on wheels. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) (05/19/91)
In article <1991May18.121514.24939@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: > >There is a rack mounted ST clone (without propriety chips) available in >Germany for musicians (so no, you are not a fool). As for doing it >yourself, why not? You may get a suggestion to call Tech-Specialities >and ask about their CPU cases. Don't, the company is bad news. I think >you can buy empty audio cases through the mail (I would try Computer >Shopper). A little drilling and gluing and bam, ST on wheels. >-- > ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- > Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear > FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down > Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." > email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | > ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- My main goal for the project is not to have a rack-mounted ST for music and sampling, but to simply free up the desk space that I have so little of and to put all of my computer stuff in a portable and secure enclosure. Someone mentioned their concerns about mounting a HD in the rackmout. I don't plan on moving the computer when it is in use, so there should be no problems with head crashes, etc. I have looked into PC magazines to find info from companies who make rackmount and industrial versions of PC-clones. Hopefully they will give me some ideas. Don't know when I'll get around to doing it, though. Hopefully, within the next couple of months. Todd -- = INTERNET-> tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga, UT Dept. of Drama) = = = = ' The dry grass will set fire to the damp grass ' = = = = African proverb brought to the Americas by slaves =
saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) (05/21/91)
A company in St Charles Illinois, Compu-Seller West (used to be Computer
Cellar), has made a nice little business of rack-mounting ST-s for studio use.
Their prices and service tend to be somewhere to the good side of excellent, so
if anyone needs one of these beasts, it's probably worth calling them. Sorry:
I don't have the number handy.
Steve saj@chinet.chi.il.usljdickey@daisy.waterloo.edu (Lee Dickey) (05/22/91)
In article <48901@ut-emx.uucp> tdrga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Todd Drga) writes: >Has anyone out there mounted their ST in a different case or housing? I am >thinking about putting mine in a 19" rackmount (like they use for audio >effects processors, etc.) unit. Since I have a 1040STF, I'd have to detach >the keyboard, move the disk drive to the front, and rearrange stuff >internally. How difficult is this project? How dangerous? Please note that >I don't plan on doing anything that involves sawing circuit boards in half >or even modifying the electronics at all beyond what is necessary to detach >the keyboard or attach a Mega keyboard. > >I am also thinking abotu rackmounting my modem and HD (Syquest). My vision >for this project is to have a rolling rackmount unit with the computer and >modem and HD which is sturdy enough to transport easily (i.e. unplug power, >monitor, and phone cables and then roll into the truck) > >Any suggestions, names of suppliers of stuff I would need, better ways >to proceed? > >Am I just a fool for thinking I can do this? Mark Tilden, in the Hardware Lab (mwtilden@watmath.waterloo.edu) has done something like this. He put the CPU in a tower case and devoured the 1040 case to turn it into a detachable keyboard by cutting off the stuff at the back. Yes, he put all power supplies, the floppy drive, everything, in the main box. He also added a battery for the clock.