achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul McCallum) (05/17/91)
Here's a question for you guys. Is it possible for someone to fix one's colour monitor so that it can work with 50 HZ without buying a new colour monitor, and would it be advisable and cheaper to just buy a new monitor. Thanks. Paul McCallum achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Edmonton Remote Systems: Serving Northern Alberta since 1982
ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) (05/17/91)
In article <cTi322w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul McCallum) writes: > > Here's a question for you guys. Is it possible for someone to fix one's >colour monitor so that it can work with 50 HZ without buying a new colour >monitor, and would it be advisable and cheaper to just buy a new monitor. If the vertical hold is causing you problems when you run a program that requires 50Hz, there should be an adjustment on the back of your monitor. One small adjustment should be fine, and you won't have to change it when you want to go back to 60Hz. -- ||| Ed Krimen [ekrimen@ecst.csuchico.edu or al661@cleveland.freenet.edu] ||| Video Production Major, California State University, Chico / | \ SysOp, Fuji BBS: 916-894-1261 TWO WEEKS UNTIL GRADUATION!!
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (05/18/91)
In article <cTi322w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul McCallum) writes: > > Here's a question for you guys. Is it possible for someone to fix one's >colour monitor so that it can work with 50 HZ without buying a new colour >monitor, and would it be advisable and cheaper to just buy a new monitor. >Thanks. > >Paul McCallum achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca >Edmonton Remote Systems: Serving Northern Alberta since 1982 Yes. There are several 50Hz programs for the ST (most of the time, they are the only difference between euro and US versions of games). If you get the demo called finalcut from atari.archive, it includes a program called changehz.prg. Also, there are 50Hz booters, with which you can boot your computer in 50Hz (for autobooting games and demoes). I think there is one on atari.archive also, if not email me. -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------
dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) (05/18/91)
In article <1991May18.122316.25048@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: >In article <cTi322w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul McCallum) writes: >> >> Here's a question for you guys. Is it possible for someone to fix one's >>colour monitor so that it can work with 50 HZ without buying a new colour >>monitor, and would it be advisable and cheaper to just buy a new monitor. >>Thanks. >> >>Paul McCallum achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca >>Edmonton Remote Systems: Serving Northern Alberta since 1982 > >Yes. There are several 50Hz programs for the ST (most of the time, they are >the only difference between euro and US versions of games). If you get >the demo called finalcut from atari.archive, it includes a program called >changehz.prg. Also, there are 50Hz booters, with which you can boot your >computer in 50Hz (for autobooting games and demoes). I think there is one >on atari.archive also, if not email me. You can only do this if you have a "recent" SC1224. The GoldStar monitors won't work in both modes unless you fiddle with the adjustment switches in the back. (Do this while the monitor is OFF.) In fact, GoldStar monitors evidently can't be adjusted to work in both modes no matter what you do. People with those monitors are just scr*wed when it comes to scan-rate dependent European software. Dave Baggett dmb%wam.umd.edu@uunet.uu.net
Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (05/19/91)
In article <1991May18.144553.17861@wam.umd.edu> dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes: > In article <1991May18.122316.25048@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes: > >In article <cTi322w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul McCallum) writes: > >> > >> Here's a question for you guys. Is it possible for someone to fix one's > >>colour monitor so that it can work with 50 HZ without buying a new colour > >>monitor, and would it be advisable and cheaper to just buy a new monitor. > >>Thanks. > >> > >>Paul McCallum achilles@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca > >>Edmonton Remote Systems: Serving Northern Alberta since 1982 > > > >Yes. There are several 50Hz programs for the ST (most of the time, they are > >the only difference between euro and US versions of games). If you get > >the demo called finalcut from atari.archive, it includes a program called > >changehz.prg. Also, there are 50Hz booters, with which you can boot your > >computer in 50Hz (for autobooting games and demoes). I think there is one > >on atari.archive also, if not email me. > > You can only do this if you have a "recent" SC1224. The GoldStar monitors > won't work in both modes unless you fiddle with the adjustment switches > in the back. (Do this while the monitor is OFF.) In fact, GoldStar monitors > evidently can't be adjusted to work in both modes no matter what you do. > People with those monitors are just scr*wed when it comes to scan-rate > dependent European software. > > Dave Baggett > dmb%wam.umd.edu@uunet.uu.net We have been using the GoldStar Monitors here in NZ. for many years without any 50/60HZ problems at all, if they are set up correctly they will work ok. -- Roger W. Sheppard 85 Donovan Rd, Kapiti New Zealand...
dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) (05/19/91)
In article <1991May19.111056.6849@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes: >In article <1991May18.144553.17861@wam.umd.edu> dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes: >> You can only do this if you have a "recent" SC1224. The GoldStar monitors >> won't work in both modes unless you fiddle with the adjustment switches >> in the back. (Do this while the monitor is OFF.) In fact, GoldStar monitors I meant to write "some" here. --------------------------------^ >> evidently can't be adjusted to work in both modes no matter what you do. >> People with those monitors are just scr*wed when it comes to scan-rate >> dependent European software. >> >> Dave Baggett >> dmb%wam.umd.edu@uunet.uu.net > >We have been using the GoldStar Monitors here in NZ. for many years >without any 50/60HZ problems at all, if they are set up correctly they >will work ok. How many times do I have to post this? I have one, and it won't work in both modes. Period. Just because yours does doesn't mean everyone's will. I think I'm competent enough to adjust the picture so that after several hours of fiddling on several different occasions I could get it would work, but NO, mine simply won't do it. And neither will a friend's SC1224, both with the Atari label, mind you. If I get my monitor into the state where the picture is "stable" in both modes, the picture is shifted half way off the screen and is incredibly grainy. Great. So what can I say? NOT ALL SC1224's will work in both modes without the adjustments being every time you want to change scan rates. If people didn't do brain-damaged things like rely on the scan rate, we wouldn't have this problem, but since people seem to have the attitude of "hell, it works on my machine, it must work on everyone else's too." we're doomed to have this problem 'til the end of time. (Or until everyone's running their ST's off multisync monitors.) Dave Baggett dmb%wam.umd.edu@uunet.uu.net
boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) (05/24/91)
In article <1991May18.144553.17861@wam.umd.edu>, dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes: >You can only do this if you have a "recent" SC1224. The GoldStar monitors >won't work in both modes unless you fiddle with the adjustment switches >in the back. (Do this while the monitor is OFF.) In fact, GoldStar monitors >evidently can't be adjusted to work in both modes no matter what you do. >People with those monitors are just scr*wed when it comes to scan-rate >dependent European software. > Mine is a Goldstar. It took one adjustment to make it work at all Hz's, and the adjustment did not affect the performance in "regular" 60Hz mode. It is a bit difficult to do this adjustment while the monitor is off, so I would recommend using the tool designed for this (a plastic TV screwdriver). -- ---------------------------------+------------------------------------- Mickey R. Boyd | "Kirk to Enterprise. All clear FSU Computer Science | down here. Beam down Technical Support Group | yeoman Rand and a six-pack . ." email: boyd@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu | ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------