[net.followup] atheism vs. Communism

wagar (01/17/83)

Many people seem to misunderstand the term atheist.  I quote:  "there is
nothing in the Communist philosophy about religion at all!"  Well, there
you have it -- Communism is an atheistic viewpoint, i.e. it is not
theistic.  This is unusual for political philosophies, since most are,
but it in no way is a criticism of the Communist viewpoint.  It is true
that the term atheism has acquired a bucket-load of negative
connotations, but it's meaning is pretty clear:  "devoid of belief in
whatever it is that theistic people believe in."  This definition makes
it pretty clear that if you aren't a theist, you're an atheist (it's
like typical vs. atypical).  Still, no one wants to be called an
atheist, because people will assume you want to force your point of view
on them and start burning down churches.  What they don't realize is
that intolerance is a religious trait, and therefore doesn't apply.

				Not at all afraid to say I'm an atheist,

				Steve Wagar
				decvax!yale-comix!wagar

dee (01/18/83)

In reply to Steve Wagar, deriving the meaning of a word from its
structure/entymology is cute but frequently wrong.  People don't use the
word atheist to mean just devoid of theism or belief in a God but to mean
an active belief that there is no God.  If you want to communicate with
people it is normally best in non-poetic applications to use the commonly
accepted meaning of a term among your intended audience.
	For another example of a word that does not have the meaning
one might expect from its construction, look at antibiotic.  If you
didn't know better, you would say it was equivalent to poison or toxic
substance since it is anti- anything that is biological (biotic).
			Donald Eastlake (dee!decvax!cca)

michaelk (01/18/83)

I believe that the notion that "something that is not theistic is therefore
atheistic" is not valid.  I have two reasons for this evaluation.  First
of all, the arguement (as has been expressly argued) presented on the net
deletes the possiblity of non-applicability.  If I observe a banana, I will
note that it is not a synchronous device, therefore, are bananas asynchronous?
Clearly, synchronousness is not applicable, and therefore requires a third
catagory that is more than just "neutral", but disconnected.  My second
reasoning is that the definition of atheism in my Merriam Webster dictionary
is as follows: "the belief that there is no GOD: denial of the existance
of a supreme being".  This definition follows with the normal usage of the
word, and means much more than a neutral position.


Mike Kersenbrock
Tektronix Microcomputer Development Products
Aloha, Oregon