[comp.protocols.time.ntp] DUT1 for 1 Jan 91?

clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements) (12/06/90)

I believe it has been officially leaked to this group that there
will be a leap second at the end of this month.  Does anyone know
what the DUT1 value will be immediately thereafter? (I.e., is it
shifting by 1.0, 0.9 or 1.1 seconds?)

Thanks,
Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com

Mills@udel.edu (12/07/90)

Bob,

Whattaya mean "official?" I copied the verbatim text of the USNO
notice to this group upon receipt. I don't think you can answer
the question until you know the DUT1 immediately preceeding the
leap, and that depends on the schedule of the cocktail parties
in Paris on New Year Eve. 

The above scatology is not my invention, but I refuse to disclose
the source.

A wee bird has whispered in my ear that Spectracom may be ready
for testing a new receiver in February. I chirped back that it
is too bad this schedule could not be moved up so that the leap
might even be seen to have been lept, since the new receiver allegedly
includes provision for that obscurity.

Dave

clements@BBN.COM (12/07/90)

.. I don't think you can answer
.. the question until you know the DUT1 immediately preceeding the
.. leap, and that depends on the schedule of the cocktail parties
.. in Paris on New Year Eve. 
.. Dave

I think DUT1 changes on month boundaries.  When I was last at
WWVH there was a note on the bullboard specifying what the DUT1
would change to at the end of the then-current month.  So they
probably know it now, its being December and all that.  And I'm
pretty sure it won't change between now and then.

My intent (in case the between-the-lines writing was muddy) is to
make a two-track audio tape at the time of Leap with the
broadcast timecode from 15 MHz on one channel and my prototype
TCG's output on the other.  I'd like to know what the DUT1 should
change to in order to get my code right.

Of course, having seen the hardware, I know they need to manually
crank a thumbwheel switch to change what they send.  Mine will
change it automagically.  In the past, the transmitted DUT1
typically has changed a few minutes after the leap.  So for those
few minutes it has been _WAY_ off, having not moved from -.5 to
+.5 (or whatever) with the insertion of the leap.

/Rcc

Mills@udel.edu (12/08/90)

Philip,

Unless you are a navigator, forget the DUT1. Official time is UTC, which
doth not include the DUT1.

Dave

philip@beeblebrox.dle.dg.com (Philip Gladstone) (12/08/90)

In article <61390@bbn.BBN.COM> clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements) writes:

clements> I believe it has been officially leaked to this group that there
clements> will be a leap second at the end of this month.  Does anyone know
clements> what the DUT1 value will be immediately thereafter? (I.e., is it
clements> shifting by 1.0, 0.9 or 1.1 seconds?)

I was about to answer a different question when I realised what you
asked. I don't know the answer to your question. 

The answer to
'What will the DUT1 offset be after the correction takes place?' is 

I am not sure. The current offset is -0.3 seconds so it seems
suprising that a leap second is due anyway. How do I know? It so
happens that the timecode I get from my stratum 1 server tells me:

    901207 2027 U -3  660601619.999728
    yymmdd hhss Z DUT1   Unix time of the 00 second.

Thus my system was out byt 300us (according to this sample).

Philip
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