[comp.protocols.time.ntp] NTP v3

hebo@HP850.MBARI.ORG (Bob Herlien) (03/19/91)

Dave,

Well, perhaps ntp v3 is the answer to our internet desolation.  
Unfortunately, HP-UX (HP's incarnation of Unix) is rather a special
case, and I've been quite happy to let the experts at HP Labs 
(aka Ken Stone) do the hard part.

I can't afford the time to port the new version.  But perhaps I'll just
take a peek.  Where can I find v3?  I've found ntp.3.4/ntp-test.tar.Z
on louie.udel.edu, but somehow I'd gained the impression that that was
the "old" version of ntp.  Am I wrong?

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Bob Herlien
MBARI (Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute)
hebo@hp850.mbari.org

P.S. Stanford is busy again this morning.  I just watched one of our
     stratum 2's drop 6 in a row, and 7 out of 8, to an external stratum 1.
     That generated a "reach" vector with one bit on, a new record.
     Funny thing is, it had already wobbled previously, and the new wobble
     brought them *closer* together.  Random walk.

ken@HPSDLZ.SDD.HP.COM (Ken Stone) (03/19/91)

> Well, perhaps ntp v3 is the answer to our internet desolation.  
> Unfortunately, HP-UX (HP's incarnation of Unix) is rather a special
> case, and I've been quite happy to let the experts at HP Labs 
> (aka Ken Stone) do the hard part.

Flattery will get you everywhere but I must admit that I'm part of the 
San Diego Division of HP, not HPLabs :-)

> I can't afford the time to port the new version.  But perhaps I'll just
> take a peek.  Where can I find v3?  I've found ntp.3.4/ntp-test.tar.Z
> on louie.udel.edu, but somehow I'd gained the impression that that was
> the "old" version of ntp.  Am I wrong?

It was my impression that there was NOT yet a unix incarnation of the 
V3 spec (only the fuzzy code) ?  If there is one I certainly would like
to know about it.

  -- Ken

Mills@udel.edu (03/19/91)

Bob,

The ntp.3.4 distribution is basically a hopped-up version 1 implementation,
while the xntp distribution is version 2. I don't remember offhand who
is working on it, but I have had several enquiries on details of the
spec, some indicating keen scrutiny. 

I watch most of the stratum-1 critters from here and observe generally
stable behavior with a couple of tens of milliseconds. Sometimes one or
more of them drop to stratum 2 and sometimes they disappear for periods
to maybe an hour, but in general the behavior is not nearly as bad as
you report. But, then, I am not watching BARRNET hosts specifically.
Here on SURANET we experience typically a 3-percent drop rate, but that
does not materially affect NTP performance.

Dave