[net.ham-radio] Update: eavesdropping on SCA transmissions

parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) (02/24/85)

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	   Update: Eavesdropping on SCA	Transmissions

     A few weeks ago, I	posed a	question about listening  to
     SCA  transmissions	on the FM commercial broadcast band.
     An	article	in _M_o_n_i_t_o_r_i_n_g__T_i_m_e_s claimed that  connecting
     a vlf receiver to an FM broadcast receiver	would permit
     SCA detection.

     Necessity being the mother	 of  invention,	 a  way	 was
     found  to	confuse	 the ICOM R71A into tuning below 100
     kHz1, and after receiving substantial inspiration	from
     Will  Martin,  Phil  Karn,	 and others I now can report
     success!

     With the R71A in the FM mode, tuned to 67 kHz,  I	con-
     nected  the  ICOM's vlf antenna input through a 0.1 ufd
     capacitor2	to the earphone	jack of	a $16 General  Elec-
     tric AM/FM	portable radio,	and can	now listen in on the
     world of SCA!

     In	the first few minutes of tuning	around,	 I've  heard
     the  Physicians' Network, Muzak, commodity	reports, and
     several data transmissions.

     Thanks again for the help!
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 1. Parnass, Bob, "Trick the ICOM R71A below 100 kHz", to be
    published in _M_o_n_i_t_o_r_i_n_g__T_i_m_e_s_.

 2. The	capacitor is needed with the GE	radio I	used to
    block DC.

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ERWINVL.DLOS@XEROX.ARPA (02/26/85)

BOB,

SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF TROUBLE JUST TO LISTEN TO SCA. I HAVE BEEN
LISTENING TO SCA FOR AROUND 8 YRS NOW. LOOK AT ONE OF THE OLDER
SIGNETICS APPLICATIONS BOOKS AND THERE IS A SLICK LITTLE CIRCUIT THAT
WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO IT WITH A 565 PHASE LOCK LOOP CHIP. THE 565 DOES
THE DETECTION AT 67 KHZ WHICH MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TWO RECEIVERS!!.
JUST TUNE THE FM RECEIVER AND THE PLL DOES ITS THING!!

                          REGARDS,

                          VAL L. ERWIN
                          W5PUT

parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) (03/07/85)

> SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF TROUBLE JUST TO LISTEN TO SCA. I HAVE BEEN
> LISTENING TO SCA FOR AROUND 8 YRS NOW. LOOK AT ONE OF THE OLDER
> SIGNETICS APPLICATIONS BOOKS AND THERE IS A SLICK LITTLE CIRCUIT THAT
> WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO IT WITH A 565 PHASE LOCK LOOP CHIP. THE 565 DOES
> THE DETECTION AT 67 KHZ WHICH MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TWO RECEIVERS!!.
> JUST TUNE THE FM RECEIVER AND THE PLL DOES ITS THING!!
> 
>                           REGARDS,
> 
>                           VAL L. ERWIN
>                           W5PUT

Thanks for the advice, Val. I built the Signetics 565 circuit in my lab,
but alas, it doesn't work!

The detector output of the average AM/FM radio is not high enough
to drive the 565. An additional stage of amplification is needed. 

I spoke with the proprietor of FM Atlas, who had the same results
with the 565 circuit.

Please post details of the simple circuit you've been using to detect SCA 
for 8 years. I might experiment with the XR2211 next, but it's a $6
chip. The 565 was on sale at Radio Shack for $1.19.
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Bob Parnass,  Bell Telephone Laboratories - ihnp4!ihu1h!parnass - (312)979-5414