beekun@ncar.UCAR.EDU (R. I. Beekun) (08/27/90)
In article <14595@wpi.wpi.edu> muts@fysaj.fys.ruu.nl (Peter Mutsaers /100000) writes: >I don't think one can be both. At least a Muslim cannot be a Christian >because the essential thing of Christianity is that Christ is not a profet, >but God Himself. Accepting this, and forgiveness of sins through Jesus Christ > is the only way for salvation in the Christian viewpoint. >From a Muslim's perspective, the true message of Jesus (Peace be upon him) is similar to the Qur'an in that both sets of revelations came from one same source: God. According to our Qur'an, Jesus (PBUH) is not the son of God or God Himself. God is Unique, Omnipotent and Ubiquitous. God does not need a Son to save mankind because each individual bears responsibility for his/her own sins. Both Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, both sinned and both were forgiven. Thus there is no need for a savior. Jesus is not God because God does not despair as Jesus allegedly did when he was on the cross. Nor does God die/become resurrected. God is eternal. [If you wish, I can cite relevant verses from the Qur'an to clarify what we, Muslims, believe.] Muslims believe that the true Christians knew the truth about Jesus, and held the same beliefs as Muslims now do with respect to this prophet and his mission. Therefore, in a sense, a true Christian (one who believed in the revelations put forth by Jesus [PBUH] ) is a Muslim and vice-versa. >(I think a Christian could not be a Muslim in the Muslim point of view as well, >because as a Christian we say that Gods Word is eternal and will never change, >therefore it is impossible that after Christ someone else could have been >sent by God who carries a message that is different from what Jesus taught.) Since there is no original text of the Bible available, and since the Bible (as we know it today) was not compiled until the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., and since Paul (who was Saul) never even knew Jesus during Jesus's (PBUH) stay on earth, it is hard to argue that the Bible is God's Word, and therefore incorruptible. The Qur'an is different. People memorized and wrote down the quranic revelations as they were revealed. The complete version of the Quran was compiled soon after the Prophet's (PBUH) death. There is only one version of the Qur'an, and it had not changed for 1400 years. Can you make the same assetion with respect to the Bible? In fact, the GOOD NEWS bible recently changed the words of the bible into "modern terminology", and removed "sexist" and "anti-semitic" references. Is this version of the bible the correct one or is the King James version the correct one? The true Bible (which you do not have) does not contradict the Quran. >Peter Mutsaers email: muts@fysaj.fys.ruu.nl Abu Syed Marwan ............................................................................ :... We decreed for the children of : : :Israel that whosoever kills a human : : :being for other than manslaughter or : / | "" | : :corruption in the earth, it shall be : / | | | | : :as though he had killed all mankind, : | | __| | | | : :and whoso saves the life of one, it : ____|___| | <__|__|__| | : :shall be as though he had saved the : | * : :life of all mankind. (Qur'an 5: 32) : _ / : :.....................................:....................................: