[comp.os.os2.misc] Dual Boot for OS/2 1.2

bmarsh@cod.NOSC.MIL (William C. Marsh) (11/14/90)

My brother is trying to set up an OS/2 system (version 1.2) with both a
FAT and HPFS file system which he can use the dual boot option to boot
either DOS or OS/2.  I remember a discussion many months ago about this,
but I didn't save the info.

If anyone has the procedure, could you email it to me, and I can forward
it?  I can also post a summary if interest merits it.

Thanks!

Bill
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hrbaan@praxis.cs.ruu.nl (Hayo Baan) (11/14/90)

In <2462@cod.NOSC.MIL> bmarsh@cod.NOSC.MIL (William C. Marsh) writes:

->My brother is trying to set up an OS/2 system (version 1.2) with both a
->FAT and HPFS file system which he can use the dual boot option to boot
->either DOS or OS/2.  I remember a discussion many months ago about this,
->but I didn't save the info.
->
->If anyone has the procedure, could you email it to me, and I can forward
->it?  I can also post a summary if interest merits it.

Whell, I installed the DUAL BOOT feature myself, and it is very easy.
What you have to do :
1) Partition your disk; one FAT and one HPFS partition.
2) Make your FAT the primary partition
3) Put DOS onto FAT partition (format /s!)
4) Run the installation program -> you'll be asked for the dual boot feature

I think this is all there is to it. (The system I use only uses 1 FAT partition,
but I think it will work for 2 as well).
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tracy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phil Tracy) (11/14/90)

Re the discussion on dual boot.  The procedure outlined by Hayo Baan
included a step (1) Partition your disk into one FAT and one HPFS
partition.  He then recommends putting DOS on the FAT and OS/2 on the
HPFS.  I'm just here to say that OS/2 gets along just fine with FAT,
although there are certain advantages to HPFS.  The computer on my desk
at work is partitioned into C and D, both FAT, both DOS and OS/2 on the
C drive.  I support 45 more stations identically configured, and they all
work fine.  What I have NOT done is try and put DOS on HPFS.  Maybe
later ;-)

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bmarsh@cod.NOSC.MIL (William C. Marsh) (11/15/90)

In article <1029@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> tracy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phil Tracy) writes:
>Re the discussion on dual boot.  The procedure outlined by Hayo Baan
>included a step (1) Partition your disk into one FAT and one HPFS
>partition.  He then recommends putting DOS on the FAT and OS/2 on the
>HPFS.  I'm just here to say that OS/2 gets along just fine with FAT,
>although there are certain advantages to HPFS.

Right.  My brother (and I for that matter) would like to test out these
'advantages' to the HPFS...

Thanks for the replys!

Bill
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jack@cscdec.cs.com (Jack Hudler) (11/15/90)

My boss wnats me to do work on Windows, I tell him just as soon as Windows
and DOS can handle HPFS.

I WANT MY HPFS!

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db3l@ibm.com (David Bolen) (11/15/90)

In article <2463@cod.NOSC.MIL> bmarsh@cod.NOSC.MIL (William C. Marsh) writes:

>In article <1029@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> tracy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phil Tracy) writes:
>>Re the discussion on dual boot.  The procedure outlined by Hayo Baan
>>included a step (1) Partition your disk into one FAT and one HPFS
>>partition.  He then recommends putting DOS on the FAT and OS/2 on the
>>HPFS.  I'm just here to say that OS/2 gets along just fine with FAT,
>>although there are certain advantages to HPFS.
>
>Right.  My brother (and I for that matter) would like to test out these
>'advantages' to the HPFS...

Just as a personal suggestion - put DOS and OS/2 both on your FAT partition
and then use your HPFS partition for all of your OS/2 software other than
the base system (such as compilers, development toolkits, source, etc..).

I've installed quite a few OS/2 systems, and I always create at least one
FAT partition for DOS-OS/2, and then worry about HPFS.  The reason is that
if something goes wrong (such as accidentally fouling up your CONFIG.SYS),
you'll be able to boot a DOS diskette and make any necessary fixes to even
the OS/2 files on C:.  If you install OS/2 on the HPFS partition, you'll
need to boot the OS/2 installation diskette, ESC back out to the prompt and
then play with the disk.  Boot time for a DOS diskette vs. the OS/2
installation diskette is significantly different.

Plus, if you keep DOS and OS/2 on separate partitions, you'll need to be
able to switch which partition is marked as active to be able to boot each
system right from the hard disk.

I personally love HPFS, and use it as the primary partition for all of my
normal operations.  I find that keeping all source, compilers and toolkits
on an HPFS drive has really sped things up, or at least it feels that way.  I
do turn on lazy writing as well, which others may or may not want to do.

Oh, and since it isn't in my signature - I may work for IBM, but these
comments are strictly my personal opinion based on my own experience with
installing and using OS/2 systems.

-- David

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kilmer@hq.af.mil (11/19/90)

Re: dual boot...

Make sure that DOS is on a FAT partition!  As far as I know, (or as far as my
own experience goes), when you boot under DOS only, you cannot read the HPFS
partition.  Thus, if DOS is on HPFS, I don't think she'll boot.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, OS/2 world.

Now, if you enter DOS through the compatiblity box, you can read the partition,
which makes life kinda wierd.  You see, I have four partitions:
(1) FAT
(2) FAT
(3) HPFS
(4) FAT (this is where my DOS apps are)

What I ran into was that if I wanted to execute any DOS app from the compat. box

I would 'see' then 3'rd partition, but under a DOS boot, I wouldn't see it.

This plays hell with maintaining PATH, LIB, and INCLUDE environment variables.

P.S. - I ended up making partition (4) HPFS, and (3) FAT.

Soooo, to be safe I'm making it rule to put DOS apps before the HPFS partition
I'm not sure if there's a better way...I'm sure there is.

See ya,
Richard
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esw@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric S. Wallace) (11/19/90)

	I just got some dual boot software from someone here on
campus. It supports dual OS/2 and DOS booting including HPFS
partitions, but unlike anything else I have seen you don't need
to do any mucking around hacking boot sectors or other files.
You just run the menu driven installation program (very slick),
tell what systems you want on your boot time menu (oh yea, it
also supports any other OS like unix and different versions of
DOS and different config.sys and autoexec.bat) and then reboot. 
Every time you boot you get a menu and you then pick the OS
configuration that you want. The software is beta, but I have 
not found any problems with it. If you want more info E-mail me
and I will pass the request on.


                                          Eric S. Wallace
                                          esw@po.cwru.edu

bking@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Barry King) (11/26/90)

> Re: dual boot...
> 
> Make sure that DOS is on a FAT partition!  As far as I know, (or as far as my
> own experience goes), when you boot under DOS only, you cannot read the HPFS
> partition.  Thus, if DOS is on HPFS, I don't think she'll boot.
> 
> Please correct me if I'm wrong, OS/2 world.
> 
> Now, if you enter DOS through the compatiblity box, you can read the partitio
> which makes life kinda wierd.  You see, I have four partitions:
> (1) FAT
> (2) FAT
> (3) HPFS
> (4) FAT (this is where my DOS apps are)
> 
> What I ran into was that if I wanted to execute any DOS app from the compat. 
> 
> I would 'see' then 3'rd partition, but under a DOS boot, I wouldn't see it.
> 
> This plays hell with maintaining PATH, LIB, and INCLUDE environment variables
> 
> P.S. - I ended up making partition (4) HPFS, and (3) FAT.
> 
> Soooo, to be safe I'm making it rule to put DOS apps before the HPFS partitio
> I'm not sure if there's a better way...I'm sure there is.
> 
> See ya,
> Richard
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Actually, there isn't a better way to my knowledge.  DOS only recognizes 
partitions up to the first non-DOS partition.  Also, DOS will not boot 
from an HPFS partition because DOS only understands the FAT file 
system scheme.  In your first scenario, your 4th partition (FAT where the 
3rd was HPFS) would be invisible to your system when booted from DOS.
 
Too bad DOS didn't have a provision for an installable file system a la 
OS/2...