[comp.os.os2.misc] Super VGA drivers for OS/2, and more news of OS/2 2.0

timur@seas.gwu.edu (The Time Traveler) (05/01/91)

In article <1991Apr30.232122.4699@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> wayne@csri.toronto.edu (Wayne Hayes) writes:
>As for the Beta release of OS/2 2.0 being available for the general
>public, first IBM said they would, then they said they wouldn't, and
>now there's a really big ruckus going on with people inside saying
>"oh great, first we promise the moon and then say 'maybe later'; if
>we keep this up we're not going to do very well convincing our
>customers that we're serious about change."  But it seems someone
>(lawyers?) is concerned about the little bits of Microsoft code still
>lying around, and does IBM have the right to give it away?  (Even

Wayne,

Assuming that IBM and Microsoft come to an agreement, and IBM decides
to resume distribution of the Beta version on their BBS, do you think
IBM will allow the code to be posted on an ftp site?

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Conrad.Bullock@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Conrad Bullock) (05/02/91)

In article <3143@sparko.gwu.edu>, timur@seas.gwu.edu (The Time Traveler)
writes:
|> Wayne,
|> 
|> Assuming that IBM and Microsoft come to an agreement, and IBM
|> decides
|> to resume distribution of the Beta version on their BBS, do you
|> think
|> IBM will allow the code to be posted on an ftp site?

They have been asked this (a lot!), and the answer is no way...
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larrys@watson.ibm.com (Larry Salomon, Jr.) (05/02/91)

In <3143@sparko.gwu.edu>, timur@seas.gwu.edu (The Time Traveler) writes:
>Assuming that IBM and Microsoft come to an agreement, and IBM decides
>to resume distribution of the Beta version on their BBS, do you think
>IBM will allow the code to be posted on an ftp site?

I am no authority on legal matters, but I seriously doubt it.

Cheers,
Larry Salomon, Jr. (aka 'Q')            LARRYS@YKTVMV.BITNET
OS/2 Applications and Tools             larrys@ibmman.watson.ibm.com
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center         larrys@eng.clemson.edu
Yorktown Heights, NY

Disclaimer:  The statements and/or opinions stated above are strictly my
own and do not reflect the views of my employer.  Additionally, I have a
reputation for being obnoxious, so don't take any personal attacks too
seriously.

tok@slammer.UUCP (Terry Kane) (05/03/91)

Well, it's final - even if IBM resumes the beta d/l bbs, you must have been
a subscriber to the NSC bbs before 0900 EDT on April 30 in order to be eligible
to download the beta system.  IBM *is* being generous if they resume the
downloading at all.

The issues involved have not been fully disclosed.  However, one very major
reason to limit the downloading is to prevent overloading the poor guy who
initiated the project in the first place.  This *is* a beta program for
those folks who have been active on the NSC bbs.  Their reports and comments
are being filtered by the tiny group of people who run the bbs - bug reports
are not, repeat *not*, going straight to Boca Raton softies.

I think that that is a pretty good reason to limit access in itself.

Remember: this beta download program was not initiated by some talking head
in the upper tiers of the old IBM's marketing hierarchy (it seems to me,
anyway :-); this is being advanced by a forward thinking OS/2 enthusiast who
wants to see OS/2 be the best product yet! from IBM.  I commend him.

I'm sorry that I mentioned it here at all.

adykes@jpradley.jpr.com (Al Dykes) (05/06/91)

In article <3143@sparko.gwu.edu> timur@seas.gwu.edu (The Time Traveler) writes:
>In article <1991Apr30.232122.4699@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> wayne@csri.toronto.edu (Wayne Hayes) 
>writes:
>>As for the Beta release of OS/2 2.0 being available for the general
>>public, first IBM said they would, then they said they wouldn't, and
>>now there's a really big ruckus going on with people inside saying
>>"oh great, first we promise the moon and then say 'maybe later'; if
>>we keep this up we're not going to do very well convincing our
>>customers that we're serious about change."  But it seems someone
>>(lawyers?) is concerned about the little bits of Microsoft code still
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^       
>>lying around, and does IBM have the right to give it away?  (Even
>

Is eliminating all Microsoft code a goal of OS/2 2.0 ?