todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) (05/24/91)
Hi folks. I'm a new OS/2 user and just installed the 1.3 SE this week. I've been using MS Windows for about 11 months now. I got to wondering what, if any, accessories and toys are being packaged with OS/2 2.0. OS/2 1.3 has a noticeable lack of the kinds of built in accessories that made Windows so attractive. I'm talking about things like Write, Terminal, the cardfiler, and, of course, Solitaire (which I believe went farther than any other single feature of Windows in making it accessible to the general public). Are there any plans to include any of this type of nifty accessories in the OS/2 2.0 release? If not, why not? Does the beta version have anything like this included? -- Todd Bradley (extension AXE) Disclaimers are for wimps who have Supreme Ruler of The Galaxy some sort of job security. Precision Visuals, Inc. Boulder, CO (303) 530-9000
joeb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Joe Barnhart) (05/25/91)
In comp.os.os2.misc, todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) writes: | I'm talking about things like Write, | Terminal, the cardfiler, and, of course, Solitaire C'mon, Solitaire is the only _really_ useful piece which comes with Windows 3.0! Actually, MS has tried to use their much-ballyhooed "WLO" porting facility on these programs at least twice. Both times they created buggy programs which weren't worth the cost of a download (from what I hear). Keep your ear to the ground, tho, because eventually they'll manage to port these utils to OS/2 1.x using their "getting-better-all-the- time" WLO library. OS/2 v2 won't need "ported" version, as it will run Windows stuff native. -- Joe B. #include <standard.disclaimer>
Conrad.Bullock@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Conrad Bullock) (05/25/91)
In article <740@pvi.UUCP>, todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) writes: |> Hi folks. I'm a new OS/2 user and just installed the 1.3 SE this week. |> I've been using MS Windows for about 11 months now. I got to wondering |> what, if any, accessories and toys are being packaged with OS/2 2.0. |> OS/2 1.3 has a noticeable lack of the kinds of built in accessories |> that made Windows so attractive. I'm talking about things like Write, |> Terminal, the cardfiler, and, of course, Solitaire (which I believe |> went farther than any other single feature of Windows in making it |> accessible to the general public). |> |> Are there any plans to include any of this type of nifty accessories |> in the OS/2 2.0 release? If not, why not? Does the beta version |> have anything like this included? Yes. OS/2 2.0 will apparently come with the same little 'applets' that come with Windows 3, as well as some new ones, like 'Neko the Cat', a really cute little cat that chases after your mouse pointer, and goes to sleep when it catches it.... I have Solitaire for OS/2 1.X - it's identical to the Win 3 one - it's the Windows program run through MS's SDK - and I've had zero problems with it... (I also have the CARDFILE program) -- Conrad Bullock | Domain: conrad@comp.vuw.ac.nz Victoria University of Wellington, | or: conrad@cavebbs.gen.nz New Zealand. | Fidonet: 3:771/130 | BBS: The Cave BBS +64 4 643429
todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) (05/25/91)
In article <11750012@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> joeb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Joe Barnhart) writes: >In comp.os.os2.misc, todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) writes: > > | I'm talking about things like Write, > | Terminal, the cardfiler, and, of course, Solitaire > >C'mon, Solitaire is the only _really_ useful piece which comes with >Windows 3.0! Actually, MS has tried to use their much-ballyhooed >"WLO" porting facility on these programs at least twice. Both times >they created buggy programs which weren't worth the cost of a >download (from what I hear). I've never heard this story. Interesting... >OS/2 v2 won't need "ported" version, as it will run Windows stuff >native. But this assumes that you have both Windows AND OS/2. Most users (as has been said here again and again) will probably feel like if they have one, they don't need the other. And even if MS ported the Windows toys to OS/2, I'm sure they wouldn't give them away free to OS/2 users. Todd. -- Todd Bradley (extension AXE) Disclaimers are for wimps who have Supreme Ruler of The Galaxy some sort of job security. Precision Visuals, Inc. Boulder, CO (303) 530-9000
todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) (05/25/91)
In article <1991May25.022328.11479@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Conrad.Bullock@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Conrad Bullock) writes: > > >Yes. OS/2 2.0 will apparently come with the same little 'applets' that come >with Windows 3, as well as some new ones, like 'Neko the Cat', a really >cute little cat that chases after your mouse pointer, and goes to sleep when Well, that's good news in my opinion. I've got Neko for Windows and I can imagine my parents enjoying it, so it will probably make a good "comfort toy" for new OS/2 users (like Solitaire was). I'm surprised 2.0 will come with the same "applets" as Windows, though. I thought most of those were Microsoft-written programs. Todd. -- Todd Bradley (extension AXE) Disclaimers are for wimps who have Supreme Ruler of The Galaxy some sort of job security. Precision Visuals, Inc. Boulder, CO (303) 530-9000
joeb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Joe Barnhart) (05/27/91)
In comp.os.os2.misc, todd@pvi.UUCP (Todd Bradley x293) writes: | >"WLO" porting facility on these programs at least twice. Both times | >they created buggy programs which weren't worth the cost of a | >download (from what I hear). | I've never heard this story. Interesting... On Compuserve, there's a forum called MSOPSYS. About every six weeks someone shows up and asks where the WLO versions of the Windows utilities are. The above story is given. Perhaps the latest version of WLO fixed the problems. To my knowledge, tho, the ported accessories are still not available on CIS. -- Joe B. #include <standard.disclaimer>
cur022%cluster@ukc.ac.uk (Bob Eager) (05/28/91)
In article <11750013@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, joeb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Joe Barnhart) writes: > On Compuserve, there's a forum called MSOPSYS. About every six weeks > someone shows up and asks where the WLO versions of the Windows utilities > are. The above story is given. Perhaps the latest version of WLO > fixed the problems. To my knowledge, tho, the ported accessories are > still not available on CIS. I downloaded them last week. They are very slow loading (eight DLLs?) but seem to work tolerably well. I think they were in a new section of the CIS MSOPSYS libraries. ----------------------------+---------------------------------------------- Bob Eager | University of Kent at Canterbury rde@ukc.ac.uk | +44 227 764000 ext 7589 rde@ibmpcug.co.uk | 100016.2770@compuserve.com | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------
larrys@watson.ibm.com (05/28/91)
I'll put this games-stuff to rest once-and-for-all. The 2.0 games are *NOT* ported from Microsoft Windows. I should know, since I wrote a number of them. :) Cheers, Larry Salomon, Jr. (aka 'Q') LARRYS@YKTVMV.BITNET OS/2 Applications and Tools larrys@ibmman.watson.ibm.com IBM T.J. Watson Research Center larrys@eng.clemson.edu Yorktown Heights, NY Disclaimer: The statements and/or opinions stated above are strictly my own and do not reflect the views of my employer. Additionally, I have a reputation for being obnoxious, so don't take any personal attacks too seriously.
joeb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Joe Barnhart) (05/29/91)
In comp.os.os2.misc, larrys@watson.ibm.com writes: | I'll put this games-stuff to rest once-and-for-all. The 2.0 games are | *NOT* ported from Microsoft Windows. Easy, Larry! We're obviously talking about different things here. We're talking about the Windows accessories which have been ported to OS/2 1.x using the (in)famous WLO. You must be referring to games which will be coming along with v2... -- Joe B.