bezenek@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd M. Bezenek KO0N) (08/08/90)
I use kermit as a terminal emulator. It seems to me that there are
a couple of very important things missing from kermit and all of the
other terminal emulators that I have used. They are:
o A 43 line mode.
o Smooth scrolling.
If anyone knows of a terminal emulator that has either of these
features, please let me know.
Thank you,
Todd
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In <5433@plains.UUCP> bezenek@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd M. Bezenek KO0N) writes: > o A 43 line mode. Why? This might be handy for talking to hosts that expect teletypes (real or glass), but full-screen hosts expect say, a VT-100, to have 24 display lines and so will never make use of the extra 18--you'll just have to squint to read the tiny characters. Seriously, developing device-independent communications displays (XWindows, or distributed applications) is a much more sensible step than kludging more lines onto an imitation of 15-year-old technology. > o Smooth scrolling. I've seen this on a PC, once. I think you have to do nasty things to the registers on the video card, and even then I'm not sure that you can smoothly scroll *part* of the screen. Again, this looks like a feature where mucho time and effort yields negligible payoff.... Dave
bcw@rti.rti.org (Bruce Wright) (08/10/90)
In article <312@saxony.pa.reuter.COM>, dgil@pa.reuter.COM (Dave Gillett) writes: > In <5433@plains.UUCP> bezenek@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd M. Bezenek KO0N) writes: > > o A 43 line mode. > Why? This might be handy for talking to hosts that expect teletypes (real or > glass), but full-screen hosts expect say, a VT-100, to have 24 display lines > and so will never make use of the extra 18--you'll just have to squint to > read the tiny characters. Some hosts _do_ in fact allow you to set the number of lines > 24 - DEC's VMS, for example! This can actually be useful if you are editing files - you can see more context (if I'm running on a DECwindows environment I usually set the page length to 48, though of course that's on a bigger monitor than what's usually found on a PC and the terminal emulator window is rather taller than a normal monitor aspect ratio ...). What's legible is somewhat subjective, and dependent on the size of the monitor used. Even on small monitors the tiny characters can still sometimes be useful since you get more context. And DEC's latest character-mode terminals (the VT420, the descendant of the VT100) allow you to set the page length to 36 or 48, though I will grant that the result may not be legible for everyone. > Seriously, developing device-independent communications displays > (XWindows, or distributed applications) is a much more sensible > step than kludging more lines onto an imitation of 15-year-old > technology. I'm not sure I disagree with the statement that this is a _better_ technology. But in the meantime, it's a fairly _expensive_ technology (though it _is_ getting quite a bit cheaper), and we'll have old hardware floating around that can support 43 or 48 lines but not XWindows for some years into the future (why replace it when it still works fine for almost all of the things you're using it for?). In light of this I think it's perfectly reasonable to look for software that supports more lines on a PC screen. I think I remember someone saying that Procomm supported this, but I'm not certain and am not familiar with the product. Bruce C. Wright
jearly@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (John Early) (08/11/90)
In article <4014@rtifs1.UUCP> bcw@rti.rti.org (Bruce Wright) writes: In article <312@saxony.pa.reuter.COM>, dgil@pa.reuter.COM (Dave Gillett) writes: > In <5433@plains.UUCP> bezenek@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd M. Bezenek KO0N) writes: > > o A 43 line mode. > Why? This might be handy for talking to hosts that expect teletypes (real or > glass), but full-screen hosts expect say, a VT-100, to have 24 display lines > and so will never make use of the extra 18--you'll just have to squint to > read the tiny characters. } I think I remember someone saying that Procomm supported this, but } I'm not certain and am not familiar with the product. } Bruce C. Wright No, Procomm doesn't; this is one of the very few failings of Procomm. Are there machines that don't know how to deal with larger screens? With the exception of an aging IBM4381-Q14, all the machines (that I use) here at Lehigh will support >24X80. Even most BBS systems can be set to any size terminal. John. ---------------------------------------- John Early | jearly@lehi3b15.csee.lehigh.edu | I was just a child then; JPE1@Lehigh.Bitnet | now I'm only a man. [pf] LUJPE@VAX1.cc.lehigh.edu |