kid@hpctdkg.HP.COM (Kevin Dietz) (09/06/90)
Hello, This is a follow up to my previous posting about multiple DOS windows in Windows 3.0. My problem was that I loaded a TSR (Command Retriever 2.0) prior to entering windows. As usual, an answer to one question raises new questions. Like is there any way I can get this to work? I don't run windows all the time, so I'm not ready to give up my retriever just yet. If I had to, I wouldn't mind uninstalling the retriever prior to entering windows, but I can't figure out how to make this retriever uninstall itself. If I did this, I would like to be able to reload it inside windows. I tried loading it from a DOS window, but this caused more problems. So all of this could put me in the market for a new command line retriever, one that can at least uninstall itself and work when loaded from within windows. Any suggestions? One thing I really like about my retriever is it handles aliases, function key assignments, and it will pop up a window with previously typed commands by pressing Ctrl-W. I've looked briefly at some other retrievers out there, but could not find one that I liked as much as the one I use. Suggestions from those that have run into this and have a solution would be greatly appreciated. Kevin Dietz kid@hpctdkg.hp.com
woan@peyote.cactus.org (Ronald S. Woan) (09/10/90)
You might want to try 4DOS which will swap most of itself out to disk before entering programs like Windows, leaving you with enough RAM. An alternative is to usr the TSRCOM utilities to get rid of your retriever prior to Windows invocation and then restarting it afterwards. Ron -- +-----All Views Expressed Are My Own And Are Not Necessarily Shared By------+ +------------------------------My Employer----------------------------------+ + Ronald S. Woan woan@peyote.cactus.org or woan@soda.berkeley.edu + + othernet Prodigy: XTCR74A Compuserve: 73530,2537 +
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) (09/11/90)
In article <2010026@hpctdkg.HP.COM> kid@hpctdkg.HP.COM (Kevin Dietz) writes: > >Hello, > >This is a follow up to my previous posting about multiple DOS windows in >Windows 3.0. My problem was that I loaded a TSR (Command Retriever 2.0) >prior to entering windows. > >As usual, an answer to one question raises new questions. Like is there >any way I can get this to work? I don't run windows all the time, so I'm >not ready to give up my retriever just yet. If I had to, I wouldn't mind >uninstalling the retriever prior to entering windows, but I can't figure >out how to make this retriever uninstall itself. If I did this, I would >like to be able to reload it inside windows. I tried loading it from a >DOS window, but this caused more problems. > >So all of this could put me in the market for a new command line retriever, >one that can at least uninstall itself and work when loaded from within >windows. Any suggestions? One thing I really like about my retriever is >it handles aliases, function key assignments, and it will pop up a window >with previously typed commands by pressing Ctrl-W. I've looked briefly >at some other retrievers out there, but could not find one that I liked as much >as the one I use. > >Suggestions from those that have run into this and have a solution would >be greatly appreciated. > Try running 4dos as your command interpreter instead of command.com, and then chuck your retriever. 4dos has pretty much the same functions, and it co- exists with windows quite nicely. If setup correctly, each instance of a 4dos window can share the same environment, saving space. It can also use extended ot expanded memory (or disk) to swap parts of itself out, and for its environment. You can get it as wuarchive.wustl.edu:mirrors/msdos/sysutl/4dos301a.zip Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254
CC65SRAD@MIAMIU.BITNET (09/16/90)
To use TSR's under Windows, you must first load Windows, then run the TSR's. You can create a batch file called WINSTART.BAT, which will execute as soon as Windows is loaded. You can then have the batch file load the TSRs. I strongly reccommend minimizing the number of things you load before loading Windows, unless you use a high memory driver like QEMM 386. Each one grabs a certain amount of your base memory, and hampers Windows performance. -Chris
MSR113@psuvm.psu.edu (Matthew Starr Richmond) (09/19/90)
In article <90258.165912CC65SRAD@MIAMIU.BITNET>, CC65SRAD@MIAMIU.BITNET says: > >To use TSR's under Windows, you must first load Windows, then run the TSR's. >You can create a batch file called WINSTART.BAT, which will execute as soon >as Windows is loaded. You can then have the batch file load the TSRs. >I strongly reccommend minimizing the number of things you load before loading >Windows, unless you use a high memory driver like QEMM 386. Each one grabs >a certain amount of your base memory, and hampers Windows performance. I have an AT 286, so this may not even be possible for me.. Does HIMEM.SYS allow you to access extended memory in Windows? How about for TSRs? Does QEMM have a similar program for 286? thanks for any info... -Matt