[comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc] Any dirt on Zeos?

mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Mark A. Holtz) (10/17/90)

Subject line says it all. 

I am thinking about purchasing the "Complete 25MHz Zeos '386 64K Cache
80MB IDE Drive, Paradise VGA Color system for $3195". However, I do
have a few good questions.

1. They say they use the Paradise 16-bit VGA 1025 color card. Is that
   as good as the V-RAM card I use at work?

2. They have a 14" Hi-res monitor. What is the top resolution that
   monitor can display? Interlaced or non-interlaced?

3. They keep on screaming "quality quality quality" in their ads. Do
   their systems *REALLY* hold up?

4. And, has anyone had any horror storys about their credit
   department?

I am looking at this system for, at the present, running word
processing, and calling up this unix system. My needs down the road,
however, involve desktop publishing, AutoCAD, and using this system to
download netnews.
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carroll@sunc5.cs.uiuc.edu (Alan M. Carroll) (10/18/90)

I bought a Zeos 16Mhz '386 Tower about, oh, 2 years or so ago. I've had some
problems with it. So far, it's had the motherboard, power supply, and disk
drive replaced. In all cases, Zeos did respond promptly, without hassle, when
I finally got around to calling them, although recently (with the disk drive,
which was a Seagate 277R0, which explains a lot) I had quite a bit of trouble
actually getting through to the service department. Once I made the connection,
they quickly sent me a new (277R1) disk drive, and it works fine now. I have a
NEC MultiSync on the system, so I can't talk about their monitors. I do like the
system, and right now my lovely wife is running Mach 2.5 on it (it used to run
DOS and 386/ix 2.0.2 & X11R3.1). I don't use it anymore primarily because it's
a 16 Mhz machine, and I have a 25Mhz Logix box. Overall, I like Zeos, and would
buy from them again.

marshall@wind55.seri.gov (Marshall L. Buhl) (10/20/90)

mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Mark A. Holtz) writes:

>Subject line says it all. 

>I am thinking about purchasing the "Complete 25MHz Zeos '386 64K Cache
>80MB IDE Drive, Paradise VGA Color system for $3195". However, I do
>have a few good questions.

>3. They keep on screaming "quality quality quality" in their ads. Do
>   their systems *REALLY* hold up?

The 9/25/90 issue of PC Mag has a service and reliability survey.  They
say that Zeos 386s are of average reliability, slightly below average
technical support and above average repair service.  An above average
number of customers said they would buy from Zeos again.

For what it's worth...
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yee@edison.seas.ucla.edu (John Yee/;093091;eegrad) (10/20/90)

Tried to email, but no go, so:

Well, I have recently had an uncomplimentary experience with a Zeos machine.
It is an older 386, tower case, but it takes a 287 or a 387 with a special
socket.  Anyhow, as most all machines are these days, it is a turbo machine,
but I found that file integrity was no good in turbo mode.  This was
mostly cured by (low level? -- sorry about ambiguity, not my machine)
format of the HD.  Then, the HD itself, a Seagate 277R started going bad
with diagnostice reporting more and more bad sectors till finally
we were unable to boot from it and it had to be replaced and the
C: and D: partitions re-established (a short story in itself).

In the course of this latter ordeal, I tried to run CHECKIT on the 
machine and found that it crashed.  This is a symptom of imperfect
compatiblity, though the makers of CHECKIT recommend you calling them
on any machine that says "Standard" for its system bios maker and I 
did not do this.

Well, I guess I do not recommend Zeos.
Let me place a plug for Everex though as we recently got a Step 25, 386
and everything is great, no problems what so ever.
I guess it is hard to beat Zeos on price, but then again, paying
later on for a new HD uses the same money as maybe some interest payments
on a larger initial charge for a better machine?  Well, whatever.

(One more thing, there was some kind of mixup on the initial shipping
 so the machine went around twice -- I don't know whose fault it was, but
 care should be taken in the addresses I suppose.  I also don't know
 how much the added knocks in transit are responsible for the final
 condition of the machine.)

jy, yee@seas.ucla.edu

kleonard@gvlv1.gvl.unisys.com (Ken Leonard) (10/22/90)

In article ... ...  writes:
* Well, I have recently had an uncomplimentary experience with a Zeos machine.
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huh
* ...
* but I found that file integrity was no good in turbo mode.  This was
* mostly cured by (low level? -- sorry about ambiguity, not my machine)
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oh
* ...
* In the course of this latter ordeal, I tried to run CHECKIT on the 
* machine and found that it crashed.  ...
* compatiblity, though the makers of CHECKIT recommend you calling them
* on any machine that says "Standard" for its system bios maker and I 
* did not do this.
..^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
uh-huh
* Well, I guess I do not recommend Zeos.
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do tell
* ...
* on a larger initial charge for a better machine?  Well, whatever.
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* (One more thing, there was some kind of mixup on the initial shipping
.............................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*  so the machine went around twice -- I don't know whose fault it was, but
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*  care should be taken in the addresses I suppose.  I also don't know
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*  how much the added knocks in transit are responsible for the final
* ...
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Gee, fella, thanks a _HEAP_ for such good, firm, well-substantiated,
self-confident information!
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regardz,
Ken