ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) (10/26/90)
I bought MKS toolkit recently. In case you didn't know, The Programmer's Shop gives you a educational discount, I paid something like $125. The toolkit == MKS Shell + MKS Awk + a huge bunch of /bin programs. You can install it in several different configurations, each implies a different extent to which it "takes over" your machine. The minimal configuration involves leaving your setup essentially untouched, and filling /bin with 250ish programs which you can use at will. The maximal configuration is for the MKS shell to come up through config.sys. Personally, I hate MS-DOS so I've given over my machine completely to MKS. The only catches derived from the fact that I'm a 386 and the installation manual doesn't really talk much about how to do a good job of installing on the 386. My "best" solution is pretty weird: config.sys starts with 386-max as memory manager, and uses it to put all device drivers into high memory. Last, it starts up MKS shell as shell= profile.ksh (the autoexec of the MKS shell) fires a strange batch file called msdosstart.bat. This chap uses the 386-max programs maxhi and maxlo to load a large sidekick into high memory. The reason this is done using a MS-DOS batch file is that it leaves me more memory for the SK notepad (i can explain further over email). Goods: - Awk is fantastic. It's better than the GNU awk. - I don't like the kornshell (or the bourne shell) but it's a huge gain over command.com. I say things like q `which td` all the time and it works! - The /bin utilities are largely welldone and faithfully replicate a Unix environment, with some limitations. - if you have a ramdisk, he makes pipes work through the ramdisk, which is great for pipes faster than command.com. - In all, I can't live without it. Bads: - the shell commandline editing mechanism is terrible, - Kornshell is inferior to cshell, IMHO, in many ways, - it takes a while to move mindsets. Also, running DOS programs from MKS Shell is sometimes downright irritating. I sometimes fire a command.com for the purpose :-( - there are more bugs than I'd have expected from a commercial package. - the documentation is good but not great. Bugs I found: - If you exceed the size of the commandline he can deal with (max = 8192 instead of microsoft's 128), he hangs. In my /bin which has a huge number of progams, ls *.exe hangs him. - I tried on tar-compress-uncompress on a large file system and the uncompressed version was different from the original. It worked correctly on a few other files, but I can't use it with peace of mind anymore.. - A few other minor shell+/bin bugs. -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Ajay Shah, (213)734-3930, ajayshah@usc.edu The more things change, the more they stay insane. _______________________________________________________________________________
psfales@cbnewsc.att.com (Peter Fales) (10/27/90)
In article <27731@usc>, ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes: ... > - if you have a ramdisk, he makes pipes work through the > ramdisk, which is great for pipes faster than command.com. I am a big fan of the tookit myself, but I am not sure what you mean here. How do I make pipes work through the ramdisk? ... > Also, running DOS > programs from MKS Shell is sometimes downright irritating. I have a few aliases I find useful. For example, alias dir="command -c dir" -- Peter Fales AT&T, Room 5B-420 N9IYJ 2000 N. Naperville Rd. UUCP: ...att!ihlpb!psfales Naperville, IL 60566 Domain: psfales@ihlpb.att.com work: (708) 979-8031