[comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc] I'm dreaming of a SMALL SIMPLE ASCII EDITOR

jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL (John B. Jones) (12/27/90)

I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, 
(better yet, his mouse) overwrite or insert, and quickly get out.  
Has anyone seen such a beast?  I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or
one of those guys published source a long time ago for a program called
VSE which was a Very Small Editor.  It had all the basic functions and
was rediculously small.
Please don't mention Edlin.  I said he was my friend. :-)
I have ftp ability.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

john jones
jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil

goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca (12/27/90)

In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
>I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
>mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, 
>Please don't mention Edlin.  I said he was my friend. :-)

my favorite is Qedit. i think the latest version is 2.08 although i
am not sure. it really works beautifully. it is shareware although
i don't know where you can get it

sameer goyal
goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca

nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (12/27/90)

In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL (John B. Jones) writes:

   Has anyone seen such a beast?  I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or
   one of those guys published source a long time ago for a program called
   VSE which was a Very Small Editor.  It had all the basic functions and
   was rediculously small.

Fetch grape.ecs.clarkson.edu:pub/msdos/pcmag/vol7n19.zip, and extract TED.*
Fetch grape.ecs.clarkson.edu:pub/msdos/pcmag/index.zip for an index of pcmag.

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danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik) (12/27/90)

In article <1990Dec26.212405.871@ccu.umanitoba.ca> goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
>In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
>>I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
>>mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, 
>>Please don't mention Edlin.  I said he was my friend. :-)
>
>my favorite is Qedit. i think the latest version is 2.08 although i
>am not sure. it really works beautifully. it is shareware although
>i don't know where you can get it

The latest version of QEDIT is 2.1, and it is available on simtel and 
wuarchive.wustl.edu.  It's my favorite, too.

ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (12/27/90)

In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
>I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
>mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, 
>(better yet, his mouse) overwrite or insert, and quickly get out.  
>Has anyone seen such a beast?  I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or
>one of those guys published source a long time ago for a program called
>VSE which was a Very Small Editor.  It had all the basic functions and
>was rediculously small.

At uwasa.fi archives available by anonymous ftp:

-rw-r--r--  2 ts          24202 Jan  8  1989 /pc/pd2/ted.zip
-rw-r--r--  2 ts          20415 Nov 12  1988 /pc/pd2/tedplus.zip
-rw-r--r--  2 ts         128331 Mar  3  1990 /pc/pd2/qedit21.zip

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lwb@pensoft.UUCP (Lance Bledsoe) (12/27/90)

In article <1990Dec26.212405.871@ccu.umanitoba.ca> goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
>In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
>>I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
>>mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, 
>>Please don't mention Edlin.  I said he was my friend. :-)

The editor I use is Multi-Edit from American Cybernetics.  It the best 
editor I've ever use on any computer. BUT, it's very large and has
lots of macro files etc.

If I want a small very good editor to carry around on a floppy for
hacking on other peoples systems, I use SEE from C-WARE Corp.  SEE
is a very small (the .exe is 38k) but extreamly powerful editor that is 
easy to use.  As you can tell from the name, it lends itself to C 
programming.

good luck...


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kabra437@pallas.athenanet.com (Ken Abrams) (12/28/90)

My personal favorite is TED.  I believe it is from PC mag.
It is a screen oriented file editor, is less than 4K and displays
all (about 8) of the available functions across the bottom of the
screen.  Thus, it is about 99% functional with no instructions at all.

I know that ftp seems to be a favorite method of aquiring files 
(and rightfully so for Unix stuff) but if you do a lot of work with
PCs, you really should try to find yourself a good local BBS.

All the above in IMHO only.  No flames, please.

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silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver) (12/28/90)

In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
$I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
$mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, 
$(better yet, his mouse) overwrite or insert, and quickly get out.  
$Has anyone seen such a beast?  I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or

   PC Magazine has a program called TED which is a very simple, very small
(< 3K) editor.  I've heard that they have a version out which is newer than
the one I have, so there may be features in addition to these:

- cut/paste
- insert/overwrite
- support for screen sizes other than 80x25 (I've used it on a 132x44)
- limited to <64K files

   I have TED 1.0, dated 1988, and it's 2984 bytes long.  Check the latest
PC Magazine to see what the latest version of TED is; specifically, I've
heard that there is a newer one that allows searches.
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nmiller@sa4.hgc.edu (norman miller) (12/28/90)

Sounds like you need TED from PC Mag, which is now in its
second version.  TED2.COM is all of 4106 bytes and works
like a charm.

There's also CSE, a bit larger (13220) but also a lot more pwerful.

You can download these from the simtel20 archives.

Norman Miller

richardh@pro-graphics.cts.com (Richard Heldmann) (12/31/90)

In-Reply-To: message from jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL

There is a small ascii editor called Ted, I don't know exactly where you can
find it, but it is a nice 'tiny' editor.

cosheff@netmbx.UUCP (Charles Shefflette) (01/01/91)

richardh@pro-graphics.cts.com (Richard Heldmann) writes:

>In-Reply-To: message from jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL

>There is a small ascii editor called Ted, I don't know exactly where you can
>find it, but it is a nice 'tiny' editor.

The editor "TED" was a feature of the programming column in PC Magazine
during 1988. Unfortunately, I don't have the issue any longer or I would 
give you reference information.

My opinion about "TED":

 1. It was a ".COM" file: therefore not guaranteed to be supported by
    DOS under future releases (MicroSoft is pushing .EXE files!)

 2. The commands, although configurable by reassembling the file, were
    less than obvious.

 3. It would not successfully assemble using the Turbo Assembler, even
    when "quirks" and "masm5.0" switches were enabled.

I would recommend QEDIT from SemWare to anyone looking for a "small"
text editor.  This editor is configurable to look like anything you
could possibly imagine (and some things you couldn't!)...

Anyway, SemWare can be contacted at:

     SemWare
     4343 Shallowford Road
       Suite C-3
     Marietta, GA 30062-5003
                   USA
     Tel: (404) 641-9002

The current version of QEdit is 2.10.  It costs about $50.00... I Highly
recommend it to anyone looking for a FAST CAPABLE text editor!

Chuck

--I am NOT in any way affiliated with SemWare!!


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rasmus@contact.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (01/01/91)

In <1990Dec27.231138.10083@mstr.hgc.edu> nmiller@sa4.hgc.edu (norman miller) writes:

>Sounds like you need TED from PC Mag, which is now in its
>second version.  TED2.COM is all of 4106 bytes and works
>like a charm.

>There's also CSE, a bit larger (13220) but also a lot more pwerful.

My personal favourite is still Qedit.  It has been getting bigger and
bigger, but it is still not too big in my opinion, and it is powerful!

ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (01/02/91)

In article <1991Jan1.093027.11480@contact.uucp> rasmus@contact.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
>
>My personal favourite is still Qedit.  It has been getting bigger and
>bigger, but it is still not too big in my opinion, and it is powerful!

Not that it really matters, but your statement about QEdit getting
bigger and bigger is not true.  The current size is 46Kb, and it was
up to 48Kb in between, and a clear growth trend has never been a
feature of QEdit releases. 
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School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

hutzley@bigq.dec.com (Steve Hutzley) (01/03/91)

In article <6616@crash.cts.com>, richardh@pro-graphics.cts.com (Richard Heldmann) writes...
>In-Reply-To: message from jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL
> 
>There is a small ascii editor called Ted, I don't know exactly where you can
>find it, but it is a nice 'tiny' editor.

TED.COM is a neat little program from PC Magizine. Its about 1.5~2 years
    old now. Any board that has PC MAG files on it will have it. Or you can
    get to the PC MAG utilities from COMPUSERVE. (GO PCMAG?)

        Steve

news@j.cc.purdue.edu (Usenet news) (01/03/91)

a good idea to have a powerful full screen editor (not edlin!) as part of
DOS standard and put into ROM.
From: zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou)
Path: brazil.psych.purdue.edu!zhou