[comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc] typing pains ...

peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu) (12/31/90)

Hi.

Is there any good solutions to preventing the "tunnel carping" (forgot
the real name) syndrome?

I'm typing in my dorm room and my wrists rest upon the edge of the
table that my computer is on.  My wrists are really starting to hurt.
The desk is rather high compared to the height of my chair and the
computer takes up room in front of the keyboard so that I can't move
the keyboard back for more flat space to rest my wrists on.

Any information would be appreciated.  Email me directly or post here.

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Pedro Quien?		peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu		Peter K. Wu

jwi@cbnewsj.att.com (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ) (01/01/91)

In article <1990Dec31.015926.1180@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu) writes:
> Hi.
> 
> Is there any good solutions to preventing the "tunnel carping" (forgot
> the real name) syndrome?

It's carpal tunnel for the carpal and metacarpal bones in the hand.
 
> I'm typing in my dorm room and my wrists rest upon the edge of the
> table that my computer is on.  My wrists are really starting to hurt.
> The desk is rather high compared to the height of my chair and the
> computer takes up room in front of the keyboard so that I can't move
> the keyboard back for more flat space to rest my wrists on.

CompuAdd is listing several very inexpensive (~$20.00) keyboard drawers 
that mount under the desk. You need two things: a keyboard height of about
25 to 27 inches rather than the desk height of 29 to 30 inches, and a wrist
rest which is a bar about 1-1/2 inch wide at the fron of the keyboard
drawer and about one inch high. The keyboard drawer will pull out from
the bottom surface of the desk giving you more space. There is also a
mouse platform that can be attached. If you can, go look in one of the
CompuAdd stores as there are several models of drawers listed. Sorry I
don't have the phone, but they advertise in most PC magazines.

No connection, etc., just browsing catalogs and noticed low price.

Jim Winer -- jwi@mtfme.att.com -- Opinions not represent employer.
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jcburt@ipsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) (01/01/91)

In article <1990Dec31.015926.1180@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu) writes:
>Hi.
>
>Is there any good solutions to preventing the "tunnel carping" (forgot
>the real name) syndrome?
>
>I'm typing in my dorm room and my wrists rest upon the edge of the
>table that my computer is on.  My wrists are really starting to hurt.
>The desk is rather high compared to the height of my chair and the
>computer takes up room in front of the keyboard so that I can't move
>the keyboard back for more flat space to rest my wrists on.
>
>Any information would be appreciated.  Email me directly or post here.
>
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>Pedro Quien?		peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu		Peter K. Wu

I *think* the name is "carpal tunnel syndrome", so named because the tendons
that move the bones of the hands (carpals) go through what is essentially
a tunnel to get from the forearm to the hand...

couple of suggestions...

first, see a sports oriented orthopidic md. (perhaps student health)
for suggestions and possibly anti-inflammatory drugs (asprin and
ibuprofen are good if the pain is not too bad)

as far as typing goes, you really need to change the geometry of the
keyboard/computer/chair/hands arrangement to give your wrists more
support and to straighten them out - most people when typing on a computer
keyboard tend to rest their wrist on the edge of the table, below the keyboard,
and then bend the hands up so that the fingers can come down on the
keys. This bending at the wrist can lead to the problem you're having.

Try raising your entire body so that your elbows at rest are slightly
above the level of your keyboard (put your chair on a box or something)
or by the same token, lower your computer/keyboard so that you get the
same relative position between elbows and keyboard. Put your keyboard on
a board - i.e. extend your desk toward you so that you have a place to
rest your wrists. place a thick pad on the extension where your wrists
would rest. This is to elevate your wrist above the keyboard so that
your hands are pretty much inline with your forearms, so you don't
continually have your wrists bent while typing...

John Burton
(jcburt@cs.wm.edu)

fks@vaxeline.COM (Frances Selkirk) (01/01/91)

I won't bother going into what a bad set up you have, as you seem aware of 
that. You can compensate, to some degree, by using a wrist pad. These devices,
available at many office supply stores, are sheets of metal with a ~1.5 inch
pad along one side. Your keyboard rests on the sheet of metal, and the pad 
elevates your wrists. I got one at work, and liked it so much I bought one
for home, too! They really help.

Now, if only someone would come out with a V-shaped keyboard...



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enteles@tahoe.unr.edu (Philip Enteles) (01/01/91)

	......the following is a synopsis of some therapy on tunnel carpal
syndrome....

	Carpal tunnel syndrome is caused by a number of different things and
is basically a swelling in the wrist constricting the tunnel that the
carpal nerve passes through. This causes pain and numbness in the hand
and in particular the thumb and first fingers but may involve all the 
fingers.
	Some of the causes are improper position of the hands while doing
repeatative motion, simply doing repeatative motion, and unacustom motion
of the fingers and hands. Some of the jobs that lead to CTS are:
	typing with the hands in an incorrect position
	factory line assembly
	data entry
	dealing, as in blackjack
	incorrect use of tools, like a framing hammer.

	An almost sure sign of CTS is waking in the morning with a numb hand
and/or part of your hand. The normal course is to consult your doctor who
will tell you to stop what you are doing or have surgery, and then stop what 
you are doing.
	Because many people can not stop their job a number of doctors and
therapists have developed a group of stretching and toning excesizes for the
wrist. These involve bending the wrist and holding it for a short duration 
in various ways. However the most important thing is to be sure you are 
preforming your job in the correct fashion. Hold and use your tools correctly
take short breaks while performing repeatative work and if you have incorrect
equipment for the job get the right tools.
	How do I know all this stuff? I am a pit boss for a major casino in
Reno and we have a large number of people who have CTS and who have had the
surgery for it.
	IMPORTANT: I am NOT a doctor. This information is for your information
and should not be considered medical treatment or any thing else for that matter
Take your problems to a doctor for a medical opinion.
	I have additional printed material on CTS and will provide it to any one
who would like it. Send $10 for reproduction fees and mailing to:
	CTS
	Box 11795
	Reno Nv. 89510

Be sure to include your address.
This is NOT a solicitation and has nothing to do with the medical profession.

Philip Enteles
enteles@tahoe.unr.edu

gruen@macs.UUCP (gruen) (01/04/91)

In article <1990Dec31.040239.22509@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, rschmidt@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (roy schmidt) writes:
> In article <1990Dec31.015926.1180@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu) writes:
> >Hi.
> >Is there any good solutions to preventing the "tunnel carping" (forgot
> >the real name) syndrome?
> 
[Ideas on preventing deleted]
> 
> Third, if you do have pain in your wrists, and especially if the pain
> persists after typing, or if you find moving your fingers to be
> uncomfortable, see a doctor immediately.  If you ignore the warning
> signs, the condition can become very serious.
> 
Even better, if you believe it really is Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, visit
your local chiropractor.  He/She should be able to take care of the
problem without surgery or medication.

I'm not a MD or a DC (doctor of Chiropractic), but my dad _is_ a DC.

--Vicky Gruen

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