akempka@eecs.wsu.edu (kempka anthony aaron - CS500) (02/07/91)
I am in search of a software package that will work with an IBM-PC (or compat.) and an ethernet card to simulate X-windows. Any info along the line of making a PC work as an X-server will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Tony Kempka
dale@cec2.wustl.edu (Dale Frye) (02/07/91)
In article <1991Feb06.182955.20490@eecs.wsu.edu> akempka@eecs.wsu.edu writes: > >I am in search of a software package that will work with an >IBM-PC (or compat.) and an ethernet card to simulate X-windows. We use Hummingbird Exceedp Plus. Works great. Will do 256 colors. Just announced a version that runs inside a Microsoft window. (Waiting for my copy!!) (416) 470-1203 Dale Frye Washington University in St. Louis P.S. Works great with Beame & Whiteside TCP/IP and NFS (416)-648-6556
cb@tamarack12.timbuk (Chris Brewster) (02/07/91)
Quarterdeck is supposedly very close to coming out with Desqview/X, which will do the job. Since Qdeck, unlike Microsoft, tends to write software that works and makes sense, this could be a winner.
brotzman@nssdcb.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lee E. Brotzman) (02/07/91)
In article <1991Feb6.222525.2376@cec1.wustl.edu>, dale@cec2.wustl.edu (Dale Frye) writes... >In article <1991Feb06.182955.20490@eecs.wsu.edu> akempka@eecs.wsu.edu writes: >> >>I am in search of a software package that will work with an >>IBM-PC (or compat.) and an ethernet card to simulate X-windows. > >We use Hummingbird Exceedp Plus. Works great. Will do 256 colors. >Just announced a version that runs inside a Microsoft window. (Waiting >for my copy!!) I just went to a sales demo for Exceed. I wasn't impressed. The program bombed inexplicably twice. The salesman said it must have run out of memory, although we only had two windows open and we were running on a 4 Megabyte 386 machine. Exceed won't open multiple local DOS sessions. The salesman said we would need a multitasking DOS, and there was no such thing, which is bull. Call Quarterdeck and get some info on DESQview/X (213-392-9851). The major drawback right now is that they aren't quite shipping it yet, but I plan on waiting for it and at least check it out before plunking many hundreds of dollars on another product. The DESQview/X end user product includes an "X server, window manager and several graphical utilities such as an application manager" (quoted from their Technical Overview brochure). OSF/Motif and Open Look window managers will be available. Quarterdeck was planning to ship first quarter '91, but it looks to me like it will be at least 2nd quarter. Probably worth the wait. -- Lee E. Brotzman Internet: brotzman@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov -- ST Systems Corp. SPAN: NSSDCA::BROTZMAN -- National Space Science Data Center BITNET: ZMLEB@SCFVM -- "Prayer: the last refuge of a scoundrel" Lisa Simpson, 1990
johnp@gssc.UUCP (John Providenza) (02/08/91)
akempka@eecs.wsu.edu (kempka anthony aaron - CS500) writes: >I am in search of a software package that will work with an >IBM-PC (or compat.) and an ethernet card to simulate X-windows. >Any info along the line of making a PC work as an X-server >will be appreciated. >Thanks in advance. >Tony Kempka Our company, Graphic Software Systems, makes a set of products that "turn your PC into an X terminal." I don't want to be a (blatant) commercial, so I'll keep this short. If you want information, call us at 503-641-2200 and ask for information on "X-Solutions." Our address is 9590 SW Gemini Dr., Beaverton, OR, 97005. John Providenza
ti@gumby.Altos.COM (Ti Kan) (02/08/91)
I am currently using Locus Computing's PC/XSight package on my system,
and am quite pleased with it. My PC is a 386 AT, with Orchid Prodesigner
SVGA/NEC Multisync 3D, and a 3COM Etherlink II 3C503 ethernet card.
It is running the PC/Xsight server under DOS, and running clients on
Altos UNIX hosts via TCP/IP. I am using the Motif window manager (mwm)
running as a X11R4 client on an Altos box. I am currently running
FTP Software's PC/TCP on my PC. I used to use Locus Computing's TCP/IP
for DOS but have since switched to FTP Software's product because of
additional features. PC/Xsight will work fine with either network
package.
PC/Xsight is a DOS-based X window server that turns your PC into an
X terminal. It also allows you to pop into DOS and run local commands.
Performance is quite good, and the look-and-feel is exactly that of
an X terminal (unlike some DOS-based X servers that run under MS-Windows).
Video display support is quite extensive, and SVGA resolutions are
supported, but most are limited to 16 colors, unless if you have an
IBM 8514 adapter/monitor (256 colors). I would expect Locus to be
adding more video support in their future releases.
A neat feature of PC/Xsight is that you can configure the display
screen to be a viewport of a larger "virtual screen". For example,
I can have a 640x480 physical screen but have a virtual screen that's
1024x768. When the mouse cursor is moved toward the edge of the
display the entire display pans up/down or left/right to reveal the
hidden portion of the virtual screen. This is nice because one can
have the larger desktop area afforded by the larger virtual screen,
but still have xterm windows with font sizes that are readable.
I have experimented with Visionware's Xvision X server, but didn't
like the look-and-feel (it's MS-Windows based). Also, on my machine
it ran much slower than PC/XSight. I also tried PC/XView from
GSS(?) but couldn't get it to work properly on my PC and gave up.
-Ti
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In article <1991Feb06.182955.20490@eecs.wsu.edu>, akempka@eecs.wsu.edu (kempka anthony aaron - CS500) writes: > > I am in search of a software package that will work with an > IBM-PC (or compat.) and an ethernet card to simulate X-windows. DEC's DecNet-DOS/PCSA/LANWORKS/PathWorks or whatever they now call it (their standard PC networking s/w) comes with genuine X support built in!
rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) (02/09/91)
Gleaned from the comp.windows.x Frequently Answered Questions postings: Subject: 28)* Where can I get an X server on a PC? AGE (619-565-7373) offers the XoftWare TIGA. Bell Technologies (Fremont, CA: 415-659-9097) PC DECWindows a.k.a. the PC DECWindows Display Facility is an MS-DOS application that turns your PC into an X11R3 terminal. It supports DECnet. Available from DEC. [Dennis Giokas (giokas@mosaic.enet.dec.com), 3/90] HP (800-752-0900) has the "HP Accelerated X Window Display Server" (HP AXDS/PC; HP part D2300B) which will run on any AT-class DOS machine with 640KB, MSDOS 3.1 or higher, and the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card, to which the X11R3-based server is downloaded (avoiding performance-limitations from PC RAM-size and processor speed). [from John Kempff (kempff@hppad.hp.com), 3/90] Hummingbird Communications (Canada 416-470-1203) produces the HCL-eXceed and HCL-eXceed Plus for EGA, VGA, and VGA+ controllers. Information Network Solutions also offers a product called HCL-eXceed for the *86. The fax is 02-4122079 inside Australia, 612-4122079 from overseas. Integrated Inference Machines (714-978-6201 or -6776) is shipping X11/AT, an X server that runs under MS-windows. The server converts an IBM-AT into an X terminal which can simultaneously run MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. Intelligent Decisions, Inc. (Sunnyvale, CA: 408-734-3730) IBM is rumored to offer a product; part #5709-029. Locus Computing (800-955-6287; CA: 213-670-6500; UK: +44 296 89911) has a server called PC-Xsight which also appears in Acer's X terminal. Metrolink Inc. (+1-305-566-9586, sales@metrolink.com; in Europe contact ADNT, (33 1) 3956 5333) ships an implementation of X11R4 for several 386 systems. Pericom's TeemTalk-X for IBM clones allows toggling between X and DOS. Information: +44 (0908) 560022. [5/90] DESQview/X from Quarterdeck (?) incorporates X into the DESQview multi-tasking DOS environment. SpectraGraphics/GSS (503-641-2200) makes PC-Xview, an MSDOS-based X server which interfaces with PC/TCP Plus networking software from FTP Software and Excelan's LAN WorkPlace for DOS. The server works with (a) 286, 386, 486 (b) EGA, VGA, DGIS displays. (c) DOS 3.2 and above (d) Microsoft, Logitech, Mouse Systems Mice (e) 640k memory up to 16 MB memory [the PC-Xview/16 is available for PCs with extended memory]. VisionWare's XVision is a Microsoft Windows-based X server which allows an IBM-compatible PC or PS/2 to display X clients running on a networked computer at the same time as local DOS programs. VisionWare is at 612-377-3627 or vision@vware.mn.org (UK: +44 532 788858 and vware@vision.uucp). Xnth is an implementation of X11 R4 which runs on AT-bus PCs running DOS 3.3 or higher. It currently supports 1280X1024 or 1024X768 resolution monitors at 256 colors (out of 16M) with hardware accelleration for graphics and text operations. It currently utilizes a TCP/IP byte stream over Ethernet. Information: Jerry Norman, Nth Graphics, Ltd., 1-800-624-7552. -- Rick Troxel | All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness rick@helix.nih.gov| of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest 301/496-4823 | motives and the will to do service to humanity. Abdu'l-Baha