jps@uh.msc.umn.edu (Jeff P. Sorvik) (02/07/91)
Does anyone have recommendations regarding the best Grammer checker for an IB
PC?
Thanks,
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#---------------------------------------------------------------------------v087mxgb@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu (Shawn E Thompson) (02/08/91)
In article <3453@uc.msc.umn.edu>, jps@uh.msc.umn.edu (Jeff P. Sorvik) writes... >Does anyone have recommendations regarding the best Grammer checker for an IB >PC? I used Right Writer for a while. I hated everything about it It was capable of checking your grammar, but I wrote Engineering reports with various word processors. Right Write thought that all the Engineering terms were "jargon" and always reported that my writing style (due to that) was in the toilet. Although, I am herein scribbling things as I think them (somewhat disjointed thoughts), I have extensive eductaion in writing, and felt my writing style was fair to good. So I have a bad taste in my mouth about right writer and recommend against it. st
raymond@math.berkeley.edu (Raymond Chen) (02/08/91)
In article <3453@uc.msc.umn.edu>, jps@uh (Jeff P. Sorvik) writes: >Does anyone have recommendations regarding the best Grammer checker ...? spelling checker, too ^ Look, folks, please do some basic research before posting these questions... Here's the relevant paragraph from the old.questions file. S: Grammar checker Q: afmintz@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allan Mintz) 8 Apr 90 Q: ries@venice.SEDD.TRW.COM (Marc Ries) 30 Apr 90 R: dlu@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dan Lu) 9 Apr 90 >Grammatik III, from Reference Software, Inc., 330 Townsend Street, >Suite 123, San Francisco, CA 94107. Also a program called RightWriter. R: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Frank) 29 Apr 90 >Grammatik IV has been released. I find a pretty fair number of its >comments to be useless, but I still use it to find passive voice, & >things like a word typed twicece, spelling, & basically, a guide to >write by. But on the whole, It's not a bad product. R: steveha@microsoft.UUCP (Steve Hastings) 3 May 90 >Comparing Grammatik with RightWriter. According to the review there >is no comparison. Grammatik is what you want. New version of >Grammatik described on p16 of April 30 1990 issue of InfoWorld. Q: komatsu@aludra.usc.edu [Grammatik II Pro + Ami Pro. Editor] 19 May 90 Q: eakin@rsmas.miami.edu (C. Mark Eakin) [Grammatik III + WP5.0] 26 Apr 90 Q: davec@maxwell.Concordia.CA (Dave Chu) 2 Oct 90 R: dak@hpausla.aso.hp.com (Dave Kruger) 9 Oct 90 >Grammatik is worth every penny. R: bwb@sei.cmu.edu (Bruce Benson) 10 Oct 90 >RightWriter [cites] two studies [which] rated ... grammar checkers ... >based on the number of *incorrect* grammar recommendations. >RightWriter averaged 13%, the nearest competitor was about 35% and >the worst was 85%. Q: alan@pluto.dss.com (Alan Warwick) 1 Nov 90 R: clouds@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kathy Strong) 3 Nov 90 >I've heard that both Grammatik and Sensible Grammar are okay. R: boulder!bohemia!Greg.Smith (Greg Smith) 3 Nov 90 >Grammatick IV supports most popular wordprocessors.
cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, CSC, Uni. of Canterbury, NZ) (02/08/91)
In article <3453@uc.msc.umn.edu>, jps@uh.msc.umn.edu (Jeff P. Sorvik) writes: > Does anyone have recommendations regarding the best Grammer checker for an IB > PC? [Jeff, if this is for real, no hard feelings, eh?] Is this for real? I've only been around a newsfeed for about 5 months and in this time I've seen 3 or 4 requests *exactly* like this. They always get (at least one) followup to the effect that maybe the poster should also get a spelling checker. Is this some kind of organized, banal "joke"? [No offense intended. Flames to /dev/nul.]
toma@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (02/09/91)
In article <3453@uc.msc.umn.edu>, jps@uh.msc.umn.edu (Jeff P. Sorvik) writes... >Does anyone have recommendations regarding the best Grammer checker for an IB >PC? Why is it that whenever someone posts a request about "Grammer Checkers" I always conclude what that person really wants is a spelling and grammar checker? (:-) I use Grammatik IV, which does do both. It also can be easily configured for your writing style. -- Tom Almy toma@sail.labs.tek.com <<< Note new address Standard Disclaimers Apply
AVP100@psuvm.psu.edu (02/10/91)
Both Grammatik IV and Rightwriter will perform grammar checks but they do not l ike 3rd person tense. I write alot of reports and sometimes I use 3rd person t ense instead of present tense and both softwares put marks all over.(Whew.. wor se than my 6th grade teacher. :-) )
kevinc@cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker) (02/12/91)
v087mxgb@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu (Shawn E Thompson) writes: >In article <3453@uc.msc.umn.edu>, jps@uh.msc.umn.edu (Jeff P. Sorvik) writes... >>Does anyone have recommendations regarding the best Grammer checker for an IB >>PC? >I used Right Writer for a while. I hated everything about it >It was capable of checking your grammar, but I wrote >Engineering reports with various word processors. >Right Write thought that all the Engineering terms were "jargon" Shaun, I assume that you know that RightWriter allows you to change the reporting of many rules and to customize it's checking as well. It also allows you to add in dictionaries of special words like Engineering terms. I use both RightWriter and Grammatik. I have found that the reports from RightWriter help me more than those from Grammatik. What do I do? I design and develop university level credit courses in Finance for delivery to students across Canada through a Distance Education format. So far I've written over a million words for my students. Kevin -- Kevin "auric" Crocker Athabasca University UUCP: ...!{alberta,ncc}!atha!kevinc Inet: kevinc@cs.AthabascaU.CA
davel@booboo.SanDiego.NCR.COM (David Lord) (02/13/91)
I use Grammatik IV occasionally. It will help you find stupid mistakes but you still have to know the grammar rules yourself because it's suggestions are frequently wrong. It just doesn't understand context very well. I have found a number of places where it will recomend using a different word, and once you change it it will recomend putting the original word back (of course I know real editors who do that too.) It also has a problem with dialog. It can't be convinced that '"Why?" she asked.' is a single sentence. It insists that 'she' should be capitalized. While I did get some value out of the program (mostly finding passive sentences) it doesn't really find the kinds of mistakes I make.