tomr@dbase.A-T.COM (Tom Rombouts) (02/12/91)
In article <1991Feb7.050344.20727@agate.berkeley.edu> raymond@math.berkeley.edu (Raymond Chen) writes: >In article <WJ!-VDA@irie.ais.org>, jwisdom@ais (Joseph Wisdom) writes: >>Are there any PC versions of the game Omega? And, if so, where >>could they be obtained from? > >Not only are you in the wrong newsgroup (comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d is for >discussing the binaries that were posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc), but >you obviously didn't read the monthly Frequently Asked Questions file. As much as I would hate to disagree with the hard-working moderators, I think c.b.i.p.d _should_ be open to general inquiries such as the above Omega question. Due to historical reasons, The Net seems to be dominated by Un*x oriented topics. As such, it seems a shame that any MS-DOS specific islands such as c.b.i.p or c.b.i.p.d should have such restrictions. Furthermore, there seems to be an assumption that postings here are for a core of readers who actively follow every post to c.b.i.p. I think a more realistic model is that there are many people who never read c.b.i.p., but suddenly realize they need a specific shareware or pubdom utility. Since most such major MS-DOS items seem to get posted here, c.b.i.p.d. would seem a reasonable place to post such a question, especially for sites (such as ours) that have no FTP access and are still hunting blindly for more mail server sites. (Due in part to sys admin's who seem to view access to USENET as "play" that detracts from "work", IMO) >Sending the message `lookup /omega/i' to the comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc mail >server would have told you: What is the USENET address for such a server? >Programs on grape.ecs.clarkson.edu as of 90-04-23 matching your search criterion: > >Directory /E/GAMES >OMEGA.ZIP No title O.K., fine. Tell us more about such mail server sites. I am now able to access the SIMTEL archives via VM1.NoDak.EDU (or another one at RPI) but still have _no_ mail access to either c.b.i.p archives or the various comp.sources archives. As much as I love The Net, figuring out how to use it often seems exactly analagous to a text based adventure game. If you don't have the $50 book "The Matrix" you fumble around by trial and error slowly learning more as you go along, often passing along tips to fellow users. Before I ramble on more, I guess my main point is that common mail server sites for other items should also be included in the c.b.i.p. FAQ file. (Such as the grape.ecs.clarkson.edu site referenced above.) Yes, it would bloat the FAQ somewhat, but it might also reduce the amount of "inapporpriate" postings here, such as this one. Sorry for my bandwidth, but I suspect my concerns are shared by others. (Especially for those, like myself, who are attempting to master The Net alone and with little support or encouragement from the local site Masters.) I don't mean to be critical of the excellent material that is posted here, nor of the hard work by the many people behind the scenes. Tom Rombouts Torrance 'Tater tomr@ashtate.A-T.com V:(213)538-7108
ron@motmpl.UUCP (Ron Widell) (02/20/91)
Raymond Chen (raymond@math.berkeley.edu) writes: > In article <WJ!-VDA@irie.ais.org>, jwisdom@ais (Joseph Wisdom) writes: > >Are there any PC versions of the game Omega? And, if so, where > >could they be obtained from? > > Not only are you in the wrong newsgroup (comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d is for > discussing the binaries that were posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc), but While I rarely find occasion to disagree with Raymond Chen, whose FAQ postings are a valuable service, this is one of those cases. Raymond's assertion that Joseph is in the wrong newsgroup is belied by the rationale he uses (this group is for discussion of postings to comp.binaries.ibm.pc), since a version of Omega for the PC *WAS* posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc (albeit almost two years ago). The following is the result of 'zoo VC' on the two zoo archives posted to c.b.i.p in May '89: Archive a:pcom_bin.zoo: Length CF Size Now Date Time -------- --- -------- --------- -------- 581324 39% 353839 9 May 89 00:55:00 7fe9 omega.exe -------- --- -------- --------- -------- 581324 39% 353839 1 file Archive a:pcom_fil.zoo: Length CF Size Now Date Time -------- --- -------- --------- -------- 3793 42% 2202 6 May 89 01:29:34 8c9d doscomp.txt 3550 41% 2093 6 May 89 01:29:34 608c dosread.me 2230 51% 1091 8 May 89 16:55:44 74d7 manifest.dos 1106 86% 152 6 May 89 01:29:36 3cd8 oabyss.dat 1314 35% 858 6 May 89 01:29:36 33b8 oabyss.txt 1068 88% 124 6 May 89 01:29:36 d3cd oarena.dat 1041 79% 222 6 May 89 01:29:38 1902 ocircle.dat 4162 78% 920 6 May 89 01:29:38 7ac0 ocity.dat 4207 78% 928 6 May 89 01:29:38 e72a ocountry.dat 1625 89% 178 6 May 89 01:29:40 8a82 ocourt.dat 1041 81% 198 6 May 89 01:29:40 1838 odlair.dat 3288 41% 1931 6 May 89 01:29:44 76e0 ohelp1.txt 1085 30% 755 6 May 89 01:29:44 18cf ohelp10.txt 803 25% 603 6 May 89 01:29:44 4353 ohelp11.txt 4522 62% 1714 6 May 89 01:29:44 5d16 ohelp12.txt 1652 62% 632 6 May 89 01:29:44 e45d ohelp13.txt 3786 41% 2220 6 May 89 01:29:44 bc01 ohelp2.txt 5156 46% 2779 6 May 89 01:29:44 7e58 ohelp3.txt 851 30% 597 6 May 89 01:29:44 2021 ohelp4.txt 4670 43% 2650 6 May 89 01:29:44 45b9 ohelp5.txt 618 27% 451 6 May 89 01:29:44 3110 ohelp6.txt 725 28% 525 6 May 89 01:29:44 039b ohelp7.txt 2033 38% 1269 6 May 89 01:29:44 6492 ohelp8.txt 4139 42% 2407 6 May 89 01:29:44 43d6 ohelp9.txt 1041 79% 221 6 May 89 01:29:44 a78b ohome1.dat 976 72% 275 6 May 89 01:29:46 5b68 ohome2.dat 1041 85% 151 6 May 89 01:29:46 7a67 ohome3.dat 1787 33% 1194 6 May 89 01:29:46 f407 ointro.txt 1872 34% 1232 6 May 89 01:29:48 6769 olicense.txt 287 64% 102 6 May 89 01:29:48 c7e1 omaze1.dat 287 68% 92 6 May 89 01:29:48 d4f4 omaze2.dat 287 63% 107 6 May 89 01:29:48 4423 omaze3.dat 287 64% 104 6 May 89 01:29:48 cfa2 omaze4.dat 1868 31% 1287 6 May 89 01:29:48 086a omega.ad 275 25% 206 6 May 89 01:29:50 bc41 omega.hi 596 54% 272 6 May 89 01:29:50 197d omega.log 283 29% 201 6 May 89 01:29:50 0b19 omegahi.bak 1041 79% 221 6 May 89 01:29:50 4b16 omisle.dat 468 47% 247 6 May 89 01:29:56 3ae0 omotd.txt 2291 40% 1368 6 May 89 01:30:02 8638 oscroll1.txt 1662 34% 1095 6 May 89 01:30:02 8c9d oscroll2.txt 1913 35% 1239 6 May 89 01:30:04 7b59 oscroll3.txt 1354 35% 876 6 May 89 01:30:04 f021 oscroll4.txt 1041 75% 261 6 May 89 01:30:04 1fa5 ospeak.dat 1041 79% 221 6 May 89 01:30:06 085c otemple.dat 364 21% 286 6 May 89 01:30:06 9f70 othanks.txt 1377 35% 901 6 May 89 01:30:06 ec09 oupdate.txt 1040 72% 291 6 May 89 01:30:08 ddf8 ovillag1.dat 1040 70% 310 6 May 89 01:30:08 c227 ovillag2.dat 1040 74% 275 6 May 89 01:30:08 8b81 ovillag3.dat 1047 76% 256 6 May 89 01:30:08 75ad ovillag4.dat 1050 77% 246 6 May 89 01:30:08 2fc2 ovillag5.dat 1040 70% 307 6 May 89 01:30:08 09d9 ovillag6.dat 532 23% 407 6 May 89 01:29:34 7438 readme 2458 37% 1547 6 May 89 01:29:34 5caa readme2 9280 44% 5188 6 May 89 01:29:34 e186 readme3 1775 35% 1148 6 May 89 01:29:34 9811 readme4 -------- --- -------- --------- -------- 102206 51% 49633 57 files Thus, if there is an archive site for postings to c.b.i.p, these two files will be found there. Regards, -- Ron Widell, Field Applications Eng. |UUCP: {...}mcdchg!motmpl!ron Motorola Semiconductor Products, Inc., |Voice:(612)941-6800 9600 W. 76th St., Suite G | I'm from Silicon Tundra, Eden Prairie, Mn. 55344 -3718 | what could I know?