dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) (04/15/91)
I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of course I would like to transfer data between the two machines at times, and using floppies would be much faster than my 1200 baud modem. So the question: Does anyone know of software for either end that will allow me to write disks on one machine and read them on the other? Please send me or post any ideas (free, share, or commercial) that you may have. Thankyou, Dan Wojciechowski dmaster@ihlpm.att.com
satwant@eecg.toronto.edu (Satwant Singh) (04/16/91)
In article <1991Apr15.131638.12661@cbnewsc.att.com> dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) writes: >I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a >SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of >course I would like to transfer data between the two machines >dmaster@ihlpm.att.com Sparc systems allows a file system called /pcfs (pc file system). Do the following sequence of commands. Put a DOS formatted 1.44M floppy, you want to read, in the Drive. % mount /pcfs (*see comments below) % cd /pcfs % ls There you go! you have a PC-compatible filesystem. (type % man pcfs :-)) * You should have filesystem pcfs present in /etc/fstab file. If not then ask your system administrator to mount it for you. Mount requires root privelidge. But once mounted you can leave it there, use 'eject -f' to eject the floppy. PCFS is quite inefficient when compared to other access methods. satwant
av@kielo.uta.fi (Arto V. Viitanen) (04/16/91)
>>>>> On 15 Apr 91 13:16:38 GMT, dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) said:
Dan> I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a
Dan> SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of
Dan> course I would like to transfer data between the two machines
Dan> at times, and using floppies would be much faster than my 1200
Dan> baud modem. So the question: Does anyone know of software for
Dan> either end that will allow me to write disks on one machine and
Dan> read them on the other? Please send me or post any ideas (free,
Dan> share, or commercial) that you may have.
Yes. I am writing this from SUN SPARCstation IPC, having a fractal generated
by WINfract 3.1 on '386 clone, so it works ! I transferred the picture (GIF)
using SUN's pcfs, i.e file system which makes PC's floppy look like SUN file
system. It can be optionally compiled to IPC's kernel. Read the manuals, or
ask your system administrator to compile them.
BTM. pcfs is slow, but I think it beats 1200 baud modem...
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Finlandetxbjk@solsta.ericsson.se (Bjorn Karlsen TX/DKI) (04/16/91)
>... I would like to transfer data between the two machines >at times, and using floppies ... There are some programs that can read and write 3.5" diskettes in MS-DOS format. The programs are available by anonymous ftp from wuarchive.wustl.edu /usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume11/sparc-mtools/part01.Z /usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume11/sparc-mtools/part02.Z /usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume11/sparc-mtools/part03.Z I've been using mtools without problems for a long time. -KKC- -- ========================================================================= Bj|rn Karlsen etxbjk@solsta.ericsson.se Ericsson Telecom etx.etxbjk@memo.ericsson.se S-652 21 Karlstad, SWEDEN etxbjk@lmej.ericsson.se ========================================================================= "Det einaste eg var stiv i p} skulen, var nakken" - Trond Kirkvaag
elliss@kira.egr.msu.edu (Stew Ellis) (04/16/91)
dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) writes: >I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a >SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of >course I would like to transfer data between the two machines >at times, and using floppies would be much faster than my 1200 >baud modem. So the question: Does anyone know of software for >either end that will allow me to write disks on one machine and >read them on the other? Please send me or post any ideas (free, >share, or commercial) that you may have. >Thankyou, >Dan Wojciechowski >dmaster@ihlpm.att.com First question: what version of SunOS? Version 4.1.1 includes support for pc file systems. You mount them as type pcfs I believe. You probably have to be root to run mount on your IPC. The workstation and the server I am using right now are running 4.1 so I can't check it. Try man on mount and pcfs both. For either 4.1.1 or 4.1, Doswindow provides complete support for the builtin floppy on those machines that have them. This is probably the most painless. Finally, although I have never used it, many people sing the praises of mtools by Emmet Gray. I just saved a message about the latest patch today and include it below: >Xref: msuinfo comp.sources.bugs:3001 unix-pc.sources:325 >Path: msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!widener!news.cs.indiana.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet >From: egray@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Emmet P. Gray) >Newsgroups: comp.sources.bugs,unix-pc.sources >Subject: Patch #4 to Mtools v2.0 >Keywords: Mtools >Message-ID: <1991Apr16.031008.6923@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> >Date: 16 Apr 91 03:10:08 GMT >Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) >Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana >Lines: 1562 > >This is patch #4 to the Mtools v2.0 distribution package. This patch >will fix a bug in the mmd command where directories inherited the file >name extension of the parent directory. It also adds a feature that >will allow the copying of zero length files. > >Mtools was posted to the unix-pc.sources news group (and mailed to Rich >Salz, the moderator of comp.sources.unix) on the 17th of September 1990. >Since then, patches 1-3 have been posted to unix-pc.sources, >comp.sources.bugs, and emailed to Rich Salz. > >The "always current" version of Mtools and all the patches are available >via anonymous ftp from cerl.cecer.army.mil (129.229.1.101). I've also >uploaded the files to the ~ftp/tmp/mtools directory on uunet.uu.net. > >Emmet P. Gray US Army, HQ III Corps & Fort Hood >...!uunet!uiucuxc!fthood!egray Attn: AFZF-DE-ENV >fthood!egray@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu Directorate of Engineering & Housing > Environmental Management Office > Fort Hood, TX 76544-5057 > [Stuff deleted] Hope this is of some use. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________ R.Stewart (Stew) Ellis / _______________________________/ Assoc. Prof. of Social Science / / ______ ____________ __ Dept. of Humanities & Social Science / / /___ / / ___ ___ / / / 1700 W. Third Avenue / / / / / / / / / / / / Flint, MI 48504 / /__________/ / / / / / / / / / 313-762-9765 Office /______________/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /_/ elliss@frith.egr.msu.edu ENGINEERING & MANAGEMENT INSTITUTE "Apple Macintosh, the closed system for people with supposedly open minds." - plagiarized from someone else on the net "How you gonna do it? OS/2 it!" - stupid IBM ad "Have you ever heard anything so half-OSsed?" - me
satwant@eecg.toronto.edu (Satwant Singh) (04/17/91)
In article dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) writes: >I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a >SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of >course I would like to transfer data between the two machines This is pretty straight forward in SPARCstations. There is provided a PC-compatible File System (/pcfs), which reads and writes on floppy in same format as an IBM PC. Of course, file name conventions and access right incompatibilities creat some trouble. (% man pcfs will help) Do the following sequence of commands. 1. Put a DOS formatted floppy in the drive. 2. % mount /pcfs (you have to be the root) 3. % cd /pcfs There you go! You can eject the floppy by % eject -f File system needs to be mounted only once. satwant.
les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr15.131638.12661@cbnewsc.att.com> dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) writes: >I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a >SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of >course I would like to transfer data between the two machines The "mtools" package posted to comp.sources and unix-pc.sources will let unix machines w/PC compatible disk drives read and write to the MDOS file system. It is also useful as a handy archive format even if you don't actually want to access the files under DOS, although you lose some of the unix filenames if you don't use zoo or cpio to bundle the files first. Les Mikesell les@chinet.chi.il.us
mussar@bcars53.uucp (G. Mussar) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr15.131638.12661@cbnewsc.att.com> dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) writes: >I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a >SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of >course I would like to transfer data between the two machines >at times, and using floppies would be much faster than my 1200 >baud modem. So the question: Does anyone know of software for >either end that will allow me to write disks on one machine and >read them on the other? Please send me or post any ideas (free, >share, or commercial) that you may have. > As a matter of fact, Sun provides the software to run an MS-DOS files system on the Sparc 1.44M floppy. All you gotta do is make sure you have built the kernel with the PCFS stuff. You need to be root to mount a PCFS (but I wrote a secure SID program to allow non-root users on my system to do so). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Mussar |Internet: mussar@bnr.ca | Phone: (613) 763-4937 BNR Ltd. | | FAX: (613) 763-2626
andy@mks.com (Andy Toy) (04/18/91)
You can mount the floppy on your SUN SPARCStation IPC as a pcfs
filesystem. This is a feature of SunOS 4.1.1 so you need this version
of SunOS. There is also a package called MTOOLS for the SUN which
allows it to access MS-DOS diskettes. Check the
comp.sources.{misc,unix} archive sites for it.
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Ontario, N2J 2W9 CANADA Phone: 519-884-2251 FAX: 519-884-8861poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) (04/19/91)
In article <1991Apr16.150941.26206@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> satwant@eecg.toronto.edu (Satwant Singh) writes: >In article dmaster@cbnewsc.att.com (D. R. Wojciechowski) writes: >>I have a '386 Clone at home with a 1.44Meg floppy drive and a >>SUN SPARCstation IPC at work with a 1.44Meg floppy also. Of >>course I would like to transfer data between the two machines > >This is pretty straight forward in SPARCstations. There is provided a >PC-compatible File System (/pcfs), which reads and writes on floppy in >same format as an IBM PC. Of course, file name conventions and access right >incompatibilities creat some trouble. (% man pcfs will help) > >Do the following sequence of commands. > > 1. Put a DOS formatted floppy in the drive. > 2. % mount /pcfs (you have to be the root) > 3. % cd /pcfs > >There you go! You can eject the floppy by % eject -f > >File system needs to be mounted only once. > That is true for SunOS 4.1 and up, but the drawback is that you have to be root (dangerous for the average user to have root privilege), or make mount setuid root (equally as dangerous). I prefer mtools. It gives you this capability without needing root access. Note that the older version in the archives on wuarchive may need a set of patches to make low density work right. There is a new version (2.0.3) available from cerl.cecer.army.mil. It even supports DOS partitions on a hard disk!. I would get it but SRI has our sites reverse domain name server misconfigured and is being difficult about correcting it. Until then, I cannot access those sites that demand mapping out IP address to a valid hostname. This includes uunet.uu.net, and cerl above. Perhaps some kind soul would make it more available to me, or upload it to simtel (I could then get it off wuarchive, a mirror site) or cica. Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254
av@kielo.uta.fi (Arto V. Viitanen) (04/19/91)
>>>>> On 17 Apr 91 19:40:02 GMT, andy@mks.com (Andy Toy) said:
Andy> You can mount the floppy on your SUN SPARCStation IPC as a pcfs
Andy> filesystem. This is a feature of SunOS 4.1.1 so you need this version
Andy> of SunOS. There is also a package called MTOOLS for the SUN which
Andy> allows it to access MS-DOS diskettes. Check the
Andy> comp.sources.{misc,unix} archive sites for it.
I tried both and there are two reasons why I prefer mtools:
1) you need to be root to use pcfs but anyone can use mtools
2) mtools is 7 (seven !) times faster than pcfs (tried in copying 440 k
file from floppy to harddisk)
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