larsen@CAS.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen) (05/15/91)
I have an XT that I have a 40 meg hard disk in. I am currently running ONTRACK'S Disk Manager to partition it off. THis is under MS-DOS 3.2 However, under 4.01 (The OS I would LIKE to use) disk manager causes the machine to crash. How can I use disk manager under 4.01 or use something else to get my machine to recognize a 40 meg hard disk? Thanks! Scott Larsen larsen@darkstar.cas.orst.edu UUCP: hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!larsen -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If at first you don't succeed, you are running about average." - M.H. Alderson
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) (05/22/91)
larsen@CAS.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen) writes:
<I have an XT that I have a 40 meg hard disk in. I am currently running
<ONTRACK'S Disk Manager to partition it off. THis is under MS-DOS 3.2
<However, under 4.01 (The OS I would LIKE to use) disk manager causes
<the machine to crash.
<How can I use disk manager under 4.01 or use something else to get
<my machine to recognize a 40 meg hard disk?
You only need a special driver for big drives on versions of DOS prior
to 3.31. 3.31 and 4.xx support large partitions.
That's the good news. The bad news is that you are going to have to
backup all the files on your HD. Then you are either going to have
to use Disk Manager to remove the current partitions, or you are going
to have to low-level format the drive. Then boot off a 4.01 disk, run FDISK,
(to create the new 40 meg partition), and then format the drive.
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business: CIS: [76376,1107] 76376.1107@compuserve.comjcburt@ipsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) (05/22/91)
In article <1991May15.072231.11848@lynx.CS.ORST.EDU> larsen@CAS.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen) writes: >I have an XT that I have a 40 meg hard disk in. I am currently running >ONTRACK'S Disk Manager to partition it off. THis is under MS-DOS 3.2 > >However, under 4.01 (The OS I would LIKE to use) disk manager causes >the machine to crash. > >How can I use disk manager under 4.01 or use something else to get >my machine to recognize a 40 meg hard disk? > >Thanks! > >Scott Larsen >larsen@darkstar.cas.orst.edu UUCP: hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!larsen >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"If at first you don't succeed, you are running about average." > - M.H. Alderson If you haven't already heard, DOS 4.01 *does* handle >32meg hard disks... you just need to use their utility program "share" (or the PD "noshare") as a TSR (I think) when you boot the system. I have a similar setup...an IBM-XT (yup...a true blue...:-) with two 65meg hard disks running DOS 4.01. I've been using this setup for almost a year now with no problems... Try to avoid using a disk manager to access > 32meg drives...basically what I did was low level format both drives using the low level formatter provided with the controller, and then used PC-DOS's FDISK to partition the disks (all 65 megs in one partition). After that I did a normal format of the disk and have been running ever since (this is the standard method given in the DOS manual for installing a new disk...) John +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | John Burton | | G & A Technical Software | | jcburt@gatsibm.larc.nasa.gov | | jcburt@cs.wm.edu | | | | Disclaimer: Hey, what can I say...These are *my* views, not those | | of anyone else, be they employer, school, or government| +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) (05/22/91)
In <@qiclab.scn.rain.com> leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) >larsen@CAS.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen) writes: ><I have an XT that I have a 40 meg hard disk in. I am currently running ><ONTRACK'S Disk Manager to partition it off. THis is under MS-DOS 3.2 ><However, under 4.01 () disk manager cause the machine to crash. >The bad news is that you are going to have to backup all the files.... >to use Disk Manager to remove the current partitions, or you are going >to have to low-level format the drive. Then boot off a 4.01 disk, run FDISK, >(to create the new 40 meg partition), and then format the drive. You don't HAVE to backup all the files, but that;s the easiest way, or lose them. You don't have to under almost all conditions remove the partitions just low level format the drive and start over again. You can, try to, just remove the second partition, &/or/or-not make the root partition the full size all under 3.3 or whatever. THEN boot dos 4 and start over again with fdisk. I suspect that removing both partitions then using dos 4 fdisk is all that;s required, but either way, all files will be lost. Format the drive again, and.... If you only remove the second partition, there is other software like spinwrite that should allow you to 'reformat and correct' the drive to a single 40 MB parition under dos 4. al -- Al. Michielsen, Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering, Syracuse University InterNet: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu amichiel@sunrise.acs.syr.edu Bitnet: AMICHIEL@SUNRISE
liberato@dri.com (Jimmy Liberato) (05/25/91)
leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) writes: >larsen@CAS.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen) writes: ><I have an XT that I have a 40 meg hard disk in. I am currently running ><ONTRACK'S Disk Manager to partition it off. THis is under MS-DOS 3.2 ><However, under 4.01 (The OS I would LIKE to use) disk manager causes ><the machine to crash. ><How can I use disk manager under 4.01 or use something else to get ><my machine to recognize a 40 meg hard disk? >You only need a special driver for big drives on versions of DOS prior >to 3.31. 3.31 and 4.xx support large partitions. One further complication arises from using computers/controllers with an ancient bios. Old XT class machines just don't know how to deal with a 40M hard drive. Even if you use a DOS > 3.3 you will not be able to use the full capacity. You will pretty much need to use a software driver like Disk Manager and even then you will need to do odd manuevers like having a miniscule boot partition (~1M) and then allocating the rest to an extended partition. By the way, Disk Manager should not object to 4.01 unless you are using a very obsolete version. -- Jimmy Liberato liberato@dri.com ...uunet!drivax!liberato