[comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc] how do I re use vendor 3 1/2 floppy, wont format

joec@Morgan.COM (Joe Collins) (06/12/91)

I have many 3 1/2 floppies from vendors that they don't
expect back AND that I would like to use. BUT, I cannot 
format them. I just get errors.

Any ideas? Any tricks?

thanks,


joec@morgan.com

gwni@troi.cc.rochester.edu (G. Wayne Nichols) (06/13/91)

In <3510@s5.Morgan.COM> joec@Morgan.COM (Joe Collins) writes:

>I have many 3 1/2 floppies from vendors that they don't
>expect back AND that I would like to use. BUT, I cannot 
>format them. I just get errors.

>Any ideas? Any tricks?

Perhaps you're getting a message that the floppy is write-protected?
You must cover the hole in the bottom right-hand corner.
I use the write-protect tabs from 5 1/4" disks.

akm@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) (06/14/91)

In article <14451@ur-cc.UUCP> gwni@troi.cc.rochester.edu (G. Wayne Nichols) writes:
>In <3510@s5.Morgan.COM> joec@Morgan.COM (Joe Collins) writes:

>>I have many 3 1/2 floppies from vendors that they don't
>>expect back AND that I would like to use. BUT, I cannot 
>>format them. I just get errors.
>>Any ideas? Any tricks?
>Perhaps you're getting a message that the floppy is write-protected?
>You must cover the hole in the bottom right-hand corner.
>I use the write-protect tabs from 5 1/4" disks.

Another possibility is that you have a 1.44 mb drive, and most vendor
disks are 720 K. Many 1.44 mb drives (like the ones on three of my
machines) have to be specifically told that they have a 720 k disk in
them or else they won't format. They will *not* format a 720k disk as
1.44 mb (they are sensitive to the hole), but the DOS format command
is not cleaver enough to use this info to switch the formatting to 720
K, so I have to do this explicitly.

kartik


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sammy@cbnewsd.att.com (Sammy) (06/15/91)

In article <1991Jun13.211714.8750@cs.uoregon.edu> akm@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes:
>
>disks are 720 K. Many 1.44 mb drives (like the ones on three of my
>machines) have to be specifically told that they have a 720 k disk in
>them or else they won't format. They will *not* format a 720k disk as
>1.44 mb (they are sensitive to the hole), but the DOS format command
>is not cleaver enough to use this info to switch the formatting to 720
>K, so I have to do this explicitly.
>
>kartik

The next question is, how do you do this? I have this problem (720K disks
and a 1.44 mb drive, and have looked in my DOS manual, but cannot find
the switch to use to format these disks. I have DOS 3.3.

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ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Nur Iskandar Taib) (06/16/91)

>The next question is, how do you do this? I have this problem (720K disks
>and a 1.44 mb drive, and have looked in my DOS manual, but cannot find
>the switch to use to format these disks. I have DOS 3.3.

Well, heres how:

type:

FORMAT A: /N:9/T:80

or if you have DOS 4

FORMAT A: /F:720

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amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) (06/16/91)

In article  sammy@cbnewsd.att.com (Sammy) writes:
>In article akm@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes:
>>disks are 720 K. Many 1.44 mb drives have to be specifically told that 
>>they have a 720 k disk in them or else they won't format. 

>The next question is, how do you do this? I have this problem (720K disks

Question #1, Some/Many demo/vendor disks use media which have defects which
preclude their reuse or formatting by the end user.  The only way to find out
is to try to format it.

Question #2, under dos 3.3 & 4.+ (and probably anything after/including 3.0)
format a:/t:80/n:9/v/s  causes the disk in drive a to be formatted to a
standard 720K disk, verifies the format, and makes it bootable (system).

I usually make a .bat file for formatting 720K disks in this case, and
call it like 720k.bat or for720.bat, and in it it would look something like
format %1/t:80/n:9/v/%2/%3/%4
The symbols %1 and %2 pass variables like the drive label and other options 
to the bat file.
For example, if the .bat file was called, for720.bat, then it would work lik,
for720 a: s
would format drive a and make it bootable.
al


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