meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) (06/20/91)
Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 emulation, like most editors. I would prefer something shareware or PD that I could ftp, but if there is nothing available as shareware or PD, I'd appreciate reccommendations of commercial software. Thank you. Doron Meyer
david@kessner.denver.co.us (David Kessner) (06/21/91)
In article <1991Jun20.113757.20666@deadzone.uucp> meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes: >Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 >emulation, like most editors. I use TELIX v3.15 and have no problems with VT100 emulation. I use it on a UNIX SysV system running VI, EMACS, ELM, etc with the standard terminfo entry for VT100. Works great and TELIX is Shareware with great ZMODEM... -- David Kessner - david@kessner.denver.co.us | 1135 Fairfax, Denver CO 80220 (303) 377-1801 (p.m.) | Reunite PANGEA! Compuserve? Isn't that some sort of FIDO BBS? |
dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor) (06/21/91)
In article <1991Jun20.113757.20666@deadzone.uucp> meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes:
%Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of
%the communications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it,
%which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100
%emulation, like most editors.
I use vtKermit, which is a version of Kermit that someone tuned especially for
VT100 emulation. It doesn't do any other type of terminal, but it's supposed
to do VT100 *very* well. I've used it with GNU Emacs and vi with no problem.
It has a script language (not really compatible with "the" Kermit script
language, but it works OK for me), the Kermit DL protocol (of course!), and
it also supports Xmodem. You can also use external protocols, like
Omen Technologies DSZ program, without much trouble. I use DSZ regularly.
Like all Kermits, it's free (not PD, but free). My copy is kind of old, and
I haven't seen any new versions lately, so I don't know whether anyone is
supporting it. The docs for it were written by someone from Columbia U., so
it's kind of semi-official, sorta. If you're interested, I could e-mail it to
you.
%Thank you.
You're welcome
%Doron Meyer
--
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doug_taylor@osu.edu | - A Course in Miraclesoneel@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Bruce Oneel ) (06/21/91)
In article <1991Jun20.113757.20666@deadzone.uucp> meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes:
Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100
emulation, like most editors.
I would prefer something shareware or PD that I could ftp, but if there is
nothing available as shareware or PD, I'd appreciate reccommendations of
commercial software.
Thank you.
Doron Meyer
Try mskermit from watsun.cc.columbia.edu. Try the directory
/kermit/a and look at files of the form ms*.*. Msaa*.doc should be a
good starting place. mskermit does full vt100,vt220, and most of
vt320 (maybe all, I don't remember) and tek 4010. I've never had a
problem to VMS, the one which seems to want it closest.
bruce.
--
Bruce O'Neel oneel@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov
NASA/GSFC/STX/Code 664rlp@druwa.ATT.COM (PrehnRL) (06/21/91)
In article <1991Jun20.230118.3665@kessner.denver.co.us>, david@kessner.denver.co.us (David Kessner) writes: > In article <1991Jun20.113757.20666@deadzone.uucp> meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes: > >Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 > >emulation, like most editors. > > I use TELIX v3.15 and have no problems with VT100 emulation. I use it on > a UNIX SysV system running VI, EMACS, ELM, etc with the standard terminfo > entry for VT100. Works great and TELIX is Shareware with great ZMODEM... > > -- > David Kessner - david@kessner.denver.co.us | > 1135 Fairfax, Denver CO 80220 (303) 377-1801 (p.m.) | Reunite PANGEA! > Compuserve? Isn't that some sort of FIDO BBS? | Vi and emacs usability does not mean FULL VT100 emulation. I Haven't tried TELIX 3.15, 3.12 I have tried. I have also tried QMODEM GT Powercomm, BOYAN5.0, Procomm, Procomm+TD, Telemate 2.11. None of which work with 80 column curses based forms programs that run well on VT100's. Good thing they are shareware, I'd hate to waste that kind of money on something that doesn't fit my needs. I write forms based applications so I am a little touchy about VT100 emulation claims. Boyan impresses me enough to make me think about keeping it and registering it for personal use. For many UNIX applications, an acceptable alternative would be for the emulator writers to provide termcap and terminfo files for use with their flavor of emulation. (But that might put a hole in their bubble.) We have a terminfo that will work with most of these emulators, but does not take advantage of MANY of the standard escape sequences. The only SOLID, PC based terminal emulation I've seen is a hp2621 emulation we have for AT&T employees only. PCWORKS (touchstone software) performs well on forms because they supplied terminfo/termcap. t5425 is another impressive emulation is one that runs on AT&T 630/730 graphics terminals that emulates an AT&T 5425/4425 terminal. (the 5425 emulates a VT102 + screen labeled function keys + extras). t5425 even handles 132 column mode, screen labels and alternate character sets. (Available via exptools). But I digress. ============================================================================ "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". - Benjamin Franklin (1759) Robert Prehn +-----------------------------------------------------------+ AT&T Bell Labs | ____ _______ _____ _______ | Room 1F50 | / __ \ |__ __| / _ \ |__ __| | 11900 North Pecos | | <__> | | | \ \ \_\ | | | Denver, Co 80234 | | __ | | | / \ __ | | THE CHOICE| | | | | | | | | (\ / / | | | druwa!rlp | |_| |_| |_| \_____/ |_| | (303) 538-4554 | | +-----------------------------------------------------------+
w8sdz@rigel.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) (06/22/91)
The latest version of MS-Kermit is 3.10. It now has emulation for Heath-19, Honeywell VIP7809, VT52, VT100, VT102, VT320, and Tek4010. It's available via anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20. Here is a directory listing which shows other support and enhancement files. NOTE: This list was created on Sat, 15 Jun 91 01:43:55 MDT. Some files may have been added or deleted since that date. See file PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>AAAREAD.ME for additional information. NOTE: Type B is Binary; Type A is ASCII Directory PD1:<MSDOS.KERMIT> Filename Type Length Date Description ============================================== AAAREAD.ME A 1189 890614 Information about the files in this directory DDNTAC.HLP A 4224 890813 Setting TAC parameters for Kermit EASYK110.ARC B 69771 890316 Kermit made easy. EasyKermit V1.10 EP437.ARC B 14756 900125 PC Code-Page-437-to-Epson char set translation EPSON.ARC B 10093 900125 Epson printer driver for EGA graphics screens KER_SCP3.ARC B 22808 881113 Useful Kermit (v2.29 or above) script files KER_SCP3.INF A 1851 881113 Information about files in KER-SCP3.ARC MSBOOASM.ARC B 10681 890319 Make ASCII files from binary files and back MSICYR.ZIP B 5079 910521 Kermit term init: send/rec Cyrillic characters MSIEM2.INI A 4343 890731 Kermit script maps PC keyboard for GNU Emacs MSIIBM.ARC B 41043 890120 Kermit 2.32/A Script, tutorial, init files MSIVT3.ZIP B 5354 910521 MS-Kermit DEC keybd setups for IBM-compatibles MSK-RCV.BAS A 6627 910320 Easy bootstrap: Rcve-only Kermit pgm in BASIC MSKER310.ZIP B 216929 910320 MS-Kermit v3.10 comm pgm for IBM-compatibles MSKERDOC.ARC B 207148 890630 Kermit 2.32/A User's guide and other files MSKR-EM2.ZIP B 30433 910320 MS-Kermit v3.1 term emulation & graphics info MSR31012.PCH A 4419 910609 MS-Kermit v3.10 update & bug fix patches 1-12 MSULK2.ZIP B 11684 910521 Driver allows use of DEC LK250 kbd w/MS-Kermit MSVGEN.ARC B 58327 890130 Kermit 2.32/A Generic version MSVHP1.ARC B 58108 890130 Kermit 2.32/A Hewlett Packard specific MSVIBM.ARC B 82463 891223 Kermit 2.32/A IBM-compatable specific MSVRB1.ARC B 62874 890130 Kermit 2.32/A Rainbow specific NM100.ARC B 6179 900418 Use Num Lock for VT100/300 PF1/GOLD in Kermit PCBDKER.ARC B 6242 890311 Collection of MS-Kermit scripts PCPRINT.C A 5322 890504 Print Unix host text files on PC (req. Kermit) PCPRINT.NR A 3068 890504 Unix man page for PCPRINT.C SCANCH41.ARC B 18223 900106 Keyboard scan code check/display for MS-Kermit TSKERM24.ARC B 68166 900220 Keypads, bats, & logging scripts for MS-Kermit WINKER4.ARC B 95438 890907 Kermit communications pgm v4.0 for MS-WINDOWS XSEND051.ZIP B 11210 910320 Makes Kermit script files to send entire disk YOGIUTIL.ZIP B 27954 910324 Chg blue color to underscore w/MS-Kermit v3.0x Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of the MSDOS, MISC and CP/M archives at SIMTEL20 [192.88.110.20] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (06/22/91)
In article <9149@drutx.ATT.COM> rlp@druwa.ATT.COM (PrehnRL) writes: >> In article <1991Jun20.113757.20666@deadzone.uucp> meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes: >> >Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 >> >emulation, like most editors. :>> >I Haven't tried TELIX 3.15, 3.12 I have tried. I have also tried QMODEM >GT Powercomm, BOYAN5.0, Procomm, Procomm+TD, Telemate 2.11. None of which >work with 80 column curses based forms programs that run well on VT100's. : Er, have you tried MsKermit. The one property in which it beats these fuller comm progs is the flexibility and configuratibility of terminal emulation. I have used all of them except Qmodem, and I can attenst to this based on experience. MsKermit is available from our site from the /pc/termprog directory. You also might find some information of interest to you about MsKermit and VT100 emulation in /pc/ts/tskerm24.arc. BTW Telix 3.15 is just a minor bug fix, so no real difference from 3.12. ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37 School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
berger@iboga (Mike Berger) (06/24/91)
meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes: >Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 >emulation, like most editors. >I would prefer something shareware or PD that I could ftp, but if there is >nothing available as shareware or PD, I'd appreciate reccommendations of >commercial software. *---- I've only seen one program that fully emulated VT-100 (except for double-wide characters and 132 column display... that may have changed by now): Realia's Video Termulator. It was $ 90 a few years ago. The Realia program passed every test I've seen (with the exceptions noted above). None of the free/shareware programs came close. -- Mike Berger Department of Statistics, University of Illinois AT&TNET 217-244-6067 Internet berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
bill@camco.Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) (06/24/91)
>meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes: >Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 >emulation, like most editors. Have you looked at PC-KERMIT? It supports VT100, 102, and the newer VT[23]0x emulations and you can change the key mappings to anything your little heart desires. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: ...!thebes!camco!bill 6641 East Mercer Way uunet!camco!bill Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591
tony@jassys.UUCP (Tony Holden) (06/25/91)
I've used PCVT in the past. Unlike most of the others that you
mentioned I have had no problem with it. And it's shareware too.
Here's the last thing I heard about it.
Path: attctc!texbell!wuarchive!usc!sdsu!ucsd!ucsdhub!celit!silogic!markd
From: markd@silogic.UUCP (Mark DiVecchio)
PC-VT version 10.0 USER Supported Software
1 January 1990
9888 Carroll Center Road Suite 113
San Diego, CA 92126
PC-VT is a VT-100/102 and Tek 4010/4014 Emulator for the IBM PC
or PC Clones. PC-VT runs on the PC, the PCXT, and the PCAT under DOS
2.x and 3.x.
This version of PC-VT is the complete Professional version which
has been available for about 3 years. I have taken all of the
enhancements (and bug fixes) of that version and moved them into the
User Supported version of PC-VT. The Professional Version is no longer
sold commercially.
Now more about the version 10.0 of PC-VT. It includes an
enhanced version of the VT-100 emulator and a Tektronix 4010/4014
emulator. It supports both 132 column mode and high resolution graphics
with the addition of the Everex Edge board and high resolution graphics
with the addition of the Hercules graphics board. It supports the VMS
EVE editor as well as EDT, VI and Emacs with special Keypad key
bindings. Windows are used for file transfer and the program can be
completely controlled by the host for automatic file transfer. The
keyboard can be remapped to suit your taste, screen colors can be set
with Escape Sequences, and you can recall screen data which has scrolled
off the top of the screen.
I have versions of XMODEM for the VAX running VMS ,for UNIX
System V and for UNIX 4.2BSD and a version of ZMODEM which runs under
Unix. You can get those by sending me a formatted 360Kb diskette for
each one you need and a pre-paid pre-addressed diskette mailer. Make
sure you tell me which ones you want. The XMODEM and ZMODEM programs
are public domain.
Some of the enhancements for version 10.0 of PC-VT are:
1. The dialer has been enlarged to 100 entries.
2. ZMODEM and YMODEM are now supported using the external DSZ program from
Omen Technology, Inc.
3. PC-VT Supports COM3 and COM4 for serial communications
4. The printer escape sequences are handled more like a VT terminal.
5. PC-VT does a better job of emulating the escape sequences to the local
printer.
6. PC-VT handles LPT1 through LPT4 and COM1 through COM4 for the
printer port.
7. RTS/CTS flow control has been added.
8. Added a SETUP feature to disable PC-VT Private Sequences.
9. Full Tektronix 4010/4014 Emulation.
You can always get the latest version of PC-VT from me. Call my
phone number below to find out what the latest version number is.
To get PC-VT, you can :
1. Call my ATHENA SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT GROUP board at
619-549-3927 and download the file PC-VT100.ZIP.
2. Send me 2 formatted 360K floppies or 1 formatted 1.2M floppy
along with a self-addressed postage paid floppy mailer and I will return
them in the mail.
3. Send me $9 for postage and handling and I will send them in
the mail.
I would appreciate any comments which you might have regarding
the program or its usefulness. When you write, please indicate the
version number of PC-VT which you are using.
--
Mark DiVecchio, Silogic Systems, 619-549-9841 K3FWT
9888 Carroll Center Road, Suite 113, San Diego, CA 92126
...!ucsd!celerity!celit!silogic!markd ...!ucsd!ucsdhub!celit!silogic!markd
celit!silogic!markd@fps.com BBS 619-549-3927
--
Tony Holden live on the edge,
tony@jassys Bank in Texasfurnish@zig.inria.fr (Geoffrey Furnish) (06/26/91)
In article <1991Jun20.113757.20666@deadzone.uucp>, meyer@deadzone.uucp (Doron Meyer) writes: > Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100 > emulation, like most editors. > > I would prefer something shareware or PD that I could ftp, but if there is > nothing available as shareware or PD, I'd appreciate reccommendations of > commercial software. > > Thank you. > Doron Meyer I may have just what you want. I presume you know about Kermit 3.x. This package has excellent vt series support, with the annoying problem that the PF1/GOLD key is not correctly emulated, since Num Lock stays Num Lock. This of course fouls up most editors which use the vt100 keypad, as you point out. Well, on Simtel 20 in their Kermit area I have a program called nm100, which fixes this exasperation by allowing you to use the Num Lock as the PF1/GOLD key. Please note this program is shareware. If you like it, (and use it) there is a small suggested contribution. Cheers, Geoff Furnish furnish@solar.ph.utexas.edu
caf@omen.COM (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) (06/26/91)
In article <9149@drutx.ATT.COM> rlp@druwa.ATT.COM (PrehnRL) writes:
-> >Hi. I am looking for a package that fully supports VT100 emulation. All of thecommunications software I have seen for the PC doesn't fully support it, which becomes readily apparant when I use program that depend on a full VT100
-> >emulation, like most editors.
-
-I Haven't tried TELIX 3.15, 3.12 I have tried. I have also tried QMODEM
-GT Powercomm, BOYAN5.0, Procomm, Procomm+TD, Telemate 2.11. None of which
-work with 80 column curses based forms programs that run well on VT100's.
Give ZCOMM a try. It passes every screen test on "vttest" except for
double sized characters which require video capabilities not available
without going to high res graphics. If your display supports 132
columns ZCOMM can use that too.
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf
Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software"
17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231 503-621-3406
TeleGodzilla:621-3746 FAX:621-3735 CIS:70007,2304 Genie:CAF
--
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX ...!tektronix!reed!omen!caf
Author of YMODEM, ZMODEM, Professional-YAM, ZCOMM, and DSZ
Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software"
17505-V NW Sauvie IS RD Portland OR 97231 503-621-3406