efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) (07/11/90)
I am interested in hearing from anybody who has had a chance to try ToolBook, Asymetrix' new product for Windows 3.0. ToolBook is a multimedia/hypermedia toolkit, and contains it's own OOP language, OpenScript. Any remarks &/or questions are welcome. =Eric Fowler
wallwey@snoopy.Colorado.EDU (WALLWEY DEAN WILLIAM) (07/11/90)
In article <4909@milton.u.washington.edu> efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes: > >I am interested in hearing from anybody who has had a chance to try >ToolBook, Asymetrix' new product for Windows 3.0. ToolBook is a >multimedia/hypermedia toolkit, and contains it's own OOP language, >OpenScript. Any remarks &/or questions are welcome. >=Eric Fowler Well as for running it on a 1 Meg 10 Mhz 286, ITS UNUSABLE!!! IT is slow on this configuration. I get the feeling that the performance might significantly be improved with more memory. The reason I beleive this is that the hard disk activity light is on almost all the time. Maybe this is because the DLLs can't all fit in memory at the same time. Other than that is seems really nice, but waiting 2 minutes to switch between screens is just to slow for me!! Can somebody comment on using it on a 386 with some more memory??? Note: I just ran the demo that came with my Windows 3.0 update! -Dean Wallwey ****************************************************************************** *-Dean Wallwey wallwey@snoopy.colorado.edu or wallwey@128.138.238.103 * *"If people drove cars like they run computers, 5% of the driving population * *would die every business day in automobile accidents!" * * #define DISCLAIMER \ * * The above comments are my own and not necessarly that of my employer or\ * * school. grammer, spelling errors, real heavy flames > NULL * ******************************************************************************
efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) (07/11/90)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: ToolBook/hypermedia/hypertext Summary: Expires: References: <26307@netnews.upenn.edu> <4909@milton.u.washington.edu> <23324@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: na Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Keywords: Hypermedia, hypertext, object, toolbook >Well as for running [ToolBook] on a 1 Meg 10 Mhz 286, ITS UNUSABLE!!! IT is >slow on this configuration. I get the feeling that the performance >might significantly be improved with more memory. The reason I beleive >this is that the hard disk activity light is on almost all the time. >Maybe this is because the DLLs can't all fit in memory at the same time. >Can somebody comment on using >it on a 386 with some more memory??? >Note: I just ran the demo that came with my Windows 3.0 update! >>-Dean Wallwey Dean: You are running with the minimum hardware, which really eats into performance. Adding EXTENDED(not expanded) memory will help a lot, especially as you go from about 1 meg up to about 3 megs. I expect you would get at least twice the speed with 2 more megs. Also, the sample apps which ship with Win3 are not really tuned for speed, so they don't speak well for the whole product. Daybook is an especially noticable case. While ToolBook is not famous for speed, it performs better than you would think after watching Daybook run on your hardware. I have a 33 mHz 386, and it goes like a bat(naturally). Certain video drivers can also drag it down-Email for details. =Eric (Incedentally, I'm from Boulder myself....) .sig is in the mail....
jfadams@tc.fluke.COM (Jim Adams) (07/13/90)
In article <4909@milton.u.washington.edu> efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes: > >I am interested in hearing from anybody who has had a chance to try >ToolBook, Asymetrix' new product for Windows 3.0. ToolBook is a >multimedia/hypermedia toolkit, and contains it's own OOP language, >OpenScript. Any remarks &/or questions are welcome. >=Eric Fowler I've been playing around with Toolbook for two weeks now. I'm in the midst of creating a "book" (or "stack") application that predicts tides from NOAA harmonic constants. As an authoring tool, it's quite nice. Unfortunately, as your book gets larger i.e. more pages and cross-referencing are added, the speed decreases. I'm using a 386/20 machine with 4Mb RAM and the performance is tolerable. I can't see using anything less than a 386, however. Compared to Hypercard, Toolbook is its superset. Spinaker Software is currently developing PLUS for Win3 that is on the same order as Toolbook, but affords conversion of Hypercard stacks to PLUS format. PLUS looks more similar to Hypercard than Toolbook, however, through graphics images (bitmaps) you can make Toolbook apps look like anything you want. I learned yesterday that a Hypercard stack converter is to be released (by someone) for Toolbook. In summary, Toolbook offers a quick and easy way to develop Win3 applications without investing time and $ in MSC & SDK. -- James F. Adams John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc. Everett, Washington USA WORLD:jfadams@tc.fluke.COM UUCP:{ihnp4!uw-beaver,ucbvax!lbl-csam,allegra,decvax!microsoft}!fluke!jfadams ARPA:fluke!jfadams@uw-beaver.ARPA GEnie:J.F.ADAMS CIS:74036,2517
moran@drivax.UUCP (Mike Moran) (07/13/90)
wallwey@snoopy.Colorado.EDU (WALLWEY DEAN WILLIAM) writes: >In article <4909@milton.u.washington.edu> efowler@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Fowler) writes: >> >>multimedia/hypermedia toolkit, and contains it's own OOP language, >>OpenScript. Any remarks &/or questions are welcome. >>=Eric Fowler >Well as for running it on a 1 Meg 10 Mhz 286, ITS UNUSABLE!!! IT is >slow on this configuration. I get the feeling that the performance >might significantly be improved with more memory. The reason I beleive >this is that the hard disk activity light is on almost all the time. >Maybe this is because the DLLs can't all fit in memory at the same time. >Other than that is seems really nice, but waiting 2 minutes to switch >between screens is just to slow for me!! Can somebody comment on using We have tried toolbook on several machines, mainly 386/25MHz systems with 4 or 8 Megs of memory. Performance is too slow to be practical, whether using the supplied scripts or others we have found. -- Michael A. Moran Digital Research 70 Garden Court B15 Monterey, CA 93940