[net.ham-radio] TS-430s and apartment antennas

medin@lll-crg.ARpA (Milo Medin) (11/22/85)

Hi.  I'm considering purchase of a TS-430s HF transciever and 
was wondering what all the people on the net think about it.
Its very capable, reasonably priced and has a general coverage
reciever in it which appeals to me.  Any suggestions on where to buy
it from?

Also, it'd be be plugged into an antenna on the roof of my
apartment building, and I'm relatively unsure what my manager will
let me put up there.  My first thought would be to go
with an all band vertical like the HF6V, but there might be enough space
to put up a wire antenna as long as it didnt have to be too obstructive.
That way I wouldn't need a radial ground system that I gather most verticals
need in order to work well.  The HF6V has a roof mounting kit option
with stub tuned radials, but I'm unclear how well it would
work out.  I'm in the ground floor of a 2 story complex and
the view from the roof is pretty clear in all directions, so I should be able to
get out fairly well from there.  Any suggestions?

					Thanks,
					  Milo Medin
					  KB6ADT

CRC.DlosLV@Xerox.ARPA (11/25/85)

Milo,

	I have the TS-430S and like it much.  I would suggest you get a
good Antenna tunner too.  My Antenna is a Ground-Mounted HF6V and it works
well.  Dont know what you could expect without a good radial system. If
you mounted it on a 35 ft mast it might look like a good radiator for all
but 80 mtrs. (?)  I have all the filters and the FM Module for the 430.
Also, have the Filters re-wired so the Narrow SSB filter is the Wide
filter for cw.  I also have the 10hz tuning rate option selected.

	73
	Chuck...   W5USJ

ai2q@ky2d-2.UUCP (Alex) (11/29/85)

Milo:
We are also a cliff dweller, and although restricted in what we might
put up, the advantage of having the building height makes up for some
of the limitations. In the past I have very successfully used a Hustler
4BTV trap vertical but I modified the feedpoint with a large brass disk to
accommodate many, many #12 wire radials. As in your situation, this is 
somewhat unwieldy (don't want the super tripping over a spiderweb of wires!)
The use of a vertical antenna invites some TVI as the majaority of TV
feedlines are also vertical. I am presently using a simple end fed wire, well
insulated with glass and steatite at all points and fed against ground at
the point where it enters the shack. The ground is a steam pipe! I use heavy
2-inch wide braid to make the counterpoise connection.
It works quite nicely on all bands 80 through 10 with a simple L-tuner made 
from an old ARC-5 (remeber those?) roller coil and a xmtg varaible. the proof
of the proverbial pudding is that I often run my Argonaut at abt two or three watts output and am having a ball. this setup works especially well on amtor and
my neighbors have no tvi whatsoever! Good luck with whatever you finally
get going there. By the way, am thinking of extending my simple end fed and 
creating a full wave loop out of it. 
Very 73 de Alex, Freeport, Long Island >>AR>>