mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) (09/06/90)
gail@wet.UUCP (Gail Gurman) writes: > I now what you want to do . . . something like this: > _____ > This is | | a test. > This is |___| another test. You can't do this because it's extremely bad typographic design. When you're reading something, it's very inconvenient for your eye to have to stop in the middle of a sentence and pick up again several inches to the right. If you want to wrap text around a graphic, it should be done like this: Your text goes|You have another here. Note |~~~|column here. the graphic.|___|See how much It continues|easier it is to here. |read? If you look at something like a newspaper, a magazine, or a journal article, you will notice that text is NEVER wrapped around a graphic like you suggest. There are frequently two columns, with the graphic between them. -- Marc Unangst | "da-DE-DA: I am sorry, the country you have mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us | dialed is not in service. Please check the ...!umich!leebai!mudos!mju | number and try again." -- Telecom Kuwait
duvalj@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu (Joe Duval - Entomology) (09/10/90)
Hi, I am trying to wrap text around a graphic (text box, figure) in WordPerfect and can't figure out how to make the text go completely around the graphic. I don't want to make the graphic take up the entire width of the page by using the "Full" selection from the horizontal positioning menu because some are text boxes that I want a shaded background for and I don't want the shading to go all the way across the page. Finally, just including blank lines is not acceptable because that removes one of the basic niceties of a word processor. Being able to add and remove sections of a document and letting the word processor take care of the pageing etc. The graphic will jump around from page to page and I will have to add or delete more of those blank lines. Thanks for any help -Joe -- Joe Duval duvalj@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu Losing your temper generally represents the incipient stage of rectal- cranial inversion.
gail@wet.UUCP (Gail Gurman) (09/16/90)
In article <20202@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> duvalj@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu (Joe Duval - Entomology) writes: >Hi, > I am trying to wrap text around a graphic (text box, figure) in WordPerfect >and can't figure out how to make the text go completely around the graphic. According to WordPerfect Magazine, it can't be done. The easiest work- around is to set up newspaper columns and put the graphic box between them. I now what you want to do . . . something like this: _____ This is | | a test. This is |___| another test. But you'll have to settle for: _____ This is | | This is a test. |___| another test. The only other possibility I can think of is to set "Wrap text around box" to no and tab across it. Gail PS. If you have any other questions about WP, I'm an expert :) -- Respond to {claris,hoptoad}!wet!gail@ames.arc.nasa.gov or gail@wet.UUCP
roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) (09/16/90)
mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes: > gail@wet.UUCP (Gail Gurman) writes: > > I now what you want to do . . . something like this: > > _____ > > This is | | a test. > > This is |___| another test. > > You can't do this because it's extremely bad typographic design. No, you can't do this because WordPerfect doesn't allow it. Typographic design has nothing to do with the capabilities of a program. > When you're reading something, it's very inconvenient for your eye to have > to stop in the middle of a sentence and pick up again several inches > to the right. I won't argue that point, but I do want to remind you of the time-honored philosophy that has guided Unix design... preventing people from doing stupid things will also prevent them from doing clever things. I can't think of an application that would be served by the above-mentioned design, but that doesn't mean that none exists. I think this restriction in WordPerfect is as cavalier as Ventura Publisher's not allowing text-tag changes in mid-paragraph. (and _that_ is something I _do_ want to do sometimes) > If you want to wrap text around a graphic, it should be > done like this: [example deleted] Your example is right on the money, Mark... but WP should still let you format any way you want to, even if it _is_ "incorrect". -- Roy M. Silvernail |+| roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu |+| #define opinions ALL_MINE; main(){float x=1;x=x/50;printf("It's only $%.2f, but it's my $%.2f!\n",x,x);} "This is cyberspace." -- Peter da Silva :--: "...and I like it here!" -- me
duvalj@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Joe Duval) (09/18/90)
In article <82ZkP1w163w@cybrspc> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: >mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes: > >> gail@wet.UUCP (Gail Gurman) writes: >> > I now what you want to do . . . something like this: >> > _____ >> > This is | | a test. >> > This is |___| another test. >> >> You can't do this because it's extremely bad typographic design. > >No, you can't do this because WordPerfect doesn't allow it. Typographic >design has nothing to do with the capabilities of a program. I am the original poster and I am afraid I didn't make myself clear. Here is a diagram of what I wanted to do. (I guess you could say I don't want to wrap the text at all just treat the graphic as one big line.) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx +--------------+ | | | | | | | | +--------------+ xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Is there a way to do this? Again I am using a TEXT BOX and I want to use a shaded background. I don't want to use the full width of the page because the shading will continue outside of the box. Thanks. -Joe -- Joe Duval duvalj@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu Losing your temper generally represents the incipient stage of rectal- cranial inversion.
mikew@proton.LCS.MIT.EDU (Michael B. Williams) (09/18/90)
I don't know for sure whether WordPerfect allows you to directly specify what you're trying to accomplish, but there are two ways I can think of to kluge it: 1. Create an unshaded, unbordered, margin-wide empty box and place it behind your shaded box. This will displace the text from the sides of your shaded box, but has the disadvantage of forcing you to align its vertical position and adjust its height properly. 2 Adjust the left- and right-ouside margins of your shaded box so that they exactly fill the distances from the left and right sides of your shaded box to the left and right margins, respectively. (You have to change the [O]ptions for the box or figure in order to do this; be sure to restore the previous settings after the box if necessary.) This has the disadvantage of forcing you to measure and adjust these margins should the width of your shaded box change, but has the advantage of being easier to perfect and more elegant to execute. ______________________________________________________________________ Michael B. Williams | /| /| ) /| / Room 532 | / | / |--<| / | / Laboratory for Computer Science | / |/ |___)/ |/ Massachusetts Institute of Technology | Internet: mikew@athena.mit.edu 545 Technology Square | CompuServe: 73667,3264 Cambridge, MA 02139 | AT&T: (617) 253-5983
shap@bunker.UUCP (Joseph D. Shapiro) (09/18/90)
In article <20314@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> duvalj@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU.UUCP (Joe Duval) writes:
] I am the original poster and I am afraid I didn't make myself clear. Here is
] a diagram of what I wanted to do. (I guess you could say I don't want to
] wrap the text at all just treat the graphic as one big line.)
]
]
] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
] +--------------+
] | |
] | |
] | |
] | |
] +--------------+
] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
]
] Is there a way to do this?
] Again I am using a TEXT BOX and I want to use a shaded background. I don't
] want to use the full width of the page because the shading will continue
] outside of the box. Thanks.
]
] -Joe
] --
] Joe Duval duvalj@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu
] Losing your temper generally represents the incipient stage of rectal-
] cranial inversion.
Define your box like so (the significant part is the anchor type)
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Definition: Text Box
1 - Filename
2 - Contents Text
3 - Caption
4 - Anchor Type Character
5 - Vertical Position Bottom
6 - Horizontal Position
7 - Size 3" wide x 2.5" high
8 - Wrap Text Around Box Yes
9 - Edit
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You have to position the box among the text yourself, like so:
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This is line one[HRt]
[HRt]
[Text Box:1;;][HRt]
[HRt]
This is line two[HRt]
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hope this helps...
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{decvax,yale,philabs,oliveb}!bunker!shaprick@wet.UUCP (Rick Rutledge) (09/19/90)
(Sorry, I inadvertently deleted the attribution of this.) >I am the original poster and I am afraid I didn't make myself clear. Here is >a diagram of what I wanted to do. (I guess you could say I don't want to > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > +--------------+ > | | > | | > | | > | | > +--------------+ > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Is there a way to do this? >Again I am using a TEXT BOX and I want to use a shaded background. I don't >want to use the full width of the page because the shading will continue >outside of the box. Thanks. Where you want the box, insert a 'margin' code for the margins to which you want the box to conform. Define the text box, adding text as necessary. Exit the text box edit mode, and insert 'new' margin codes with you old margin settings. You should be all set. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rick Rutledge {hoptoad|ucsfcca|claris}!wet!rick rick@wet.UUCP "Voici le secret." dit le renard. "On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible aux yeux." -Antoine de St. Exupery, _le Petit Prince_
gail@wet.UUCP (Gail Gurman) (09/19/90)
In article <20314@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> duvalj@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU.UUCP (Joe Duval) writes: >I am the original poster and I am afraid I didn't make myself clear. Here is >a diagram of what I wanted to do. (I guess you could say I don't want to >wrap the text at all just treat the graphic as one big line.) > >Is there a way to do this? Oh! Yes, there is! It's pretty simple. Make sure the cursor is before the box (or do this before creating the box). Edit the box options so that the outside margin of the box on the left and right is, say, one inch (you can adjust this based on the amount of space is actually outside the box). Make sure you set "Wrap text around box" to "Yes". If the outside margin is big enough (but small enough to allow the box size you want), WordPerfect will think there is not enough room for text and put the text below the box. Good luck! Gail -- Respond to claris!wet!gail@ames.arc.nasa.gov or gail@wet.UUCP