a577@mindlink.UUCP (Curt Sampson) (09/10/90)
I'd like to see a solution to this same problem. I'd also like to know if
there's anyway to get Telix to wrap to the previous line when given a backspace
that the beginning of a line. Can anyone help?
-cjs ( Curt_Sampson@mindlink.UUCP )doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Dave Doerschuk) (09/11/90)
I have noticed that the left-arrow key causes the character to the left of the cursor to disappear. The character has not been erased, deleting and recalling the line show the charcter to still be present. I normally use ProComm, and want to switch to Telix if I can configure it away from this problem. Example follows: Here is a line of text. ^cursor Press left-arrow key 6 times, text changes to: Here is a line of ^cursor Do a control-sequence that causes the editor to delete/recall line: Here is a line of text. ^cursor I really like Telix, and would like to switch over to it. Can anyone help? Thank you! Dave Doerschuk doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu
woan@peyote.cactus.org (Ronald S. Woan) (09/11/90)
In article <4137@rex.cs.tulane.edu>, doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Dave Doerschuk) writes: > I have noticed that the left-arrow key causes the character to the > left of the cursor to disappear. The character has not been erased, > deleting and recalling the line show the charcter to still be present. > I normally use ProComm, and want to switch to Telix if I can configure > it away from this problem. Example follows: Sounds like the old destructive backspace problem. I remember that being configurable in the terminal configuration menus or the dialing directory. Just set it to be non-destructive... I don't use Telix anymore, so perhaps I am off base here, but it sounded good. Ron "Just Say No To MVS" Woan -- +-----All Views Expressed Are My Own And Are Not Necessarily Shared By------+ +------------------------------My Employer----------------------------------+ + Ronald S. Woan woan@peyote.cactus.org or woan@soda.berkeley.edu + + othernet Prodigy: XTCR74A Compuserve: 73530,2537 +
weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Neil Weisenfeld) (09/12/90)
In article <2249@peyote.cactus.org> woan@peyote.cactus.org (Ronald S. Woan) writes: >In article <4137@rex.cs.tulane.edu>, doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Dave Doerschuk) writes: >> I have noticed that the left-arrow key causes the character to the >> left of the cursor to disappear. The character has not been erased, >> deleting and recalling the line show the charcter to still be present. >> I normally use ProComm, and want to switch to Telix if I can configure >> it away from this problem. Example follows: > >Sounds like the old destructive backspace problem. I remember that being >configurable in the terminal configuration menus or the dialing directory. >Just set it to be non-destructive... I don't use Telix anymore, so perhaps >I am off base here, but it sounded good. > > Ron "Just Say No To MVS" Woan Bingo. From the Alt-O menu, choose Terminal options. Then set 'Receive BS Destructive' to off. If this works, go to your dialing menu and edit the appropriate entries, making the same change. Forgetting this last step was the source of just about everyone (including myself) reporting that Telix had a bug where it would keep resetting the paramter to 'ON'. Neil -- _____________________________________________________________________________ ( ) _ ( ) Neil Weisenfeld | 3900 Chestnut St. ( )(_)_ ( ) Computer Science and Engineering | Apt. 233 ( ) (_)_ ( ) School of Engineering and Applied Science | Philadelphia, PA
c60c-1gd@e260-1c.berkeley.edu (Joon Song) (09/12/90)
In article <4137@rex.cs.tulane.edu> doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Dave Doerschuk) writes: >I have noticed that the left-arrow key causes the character to the >left of the cursor to disappear. The character has not been erased, >deleting and recalling the line show the charcter to still be present. This happens because destructive-backspace is turned on. You can turn it off in one of two ways. To turn it off temporarily - Press <ALT-O> for the Configuration Menu and choose Terminal Options and turn off Receive- Backspace-Destructive (option H) To turn it off permanently - Each entry in the dialing directory has the destructive-backspace option. You must edit each entry in your dialing directory. Change 'Rcvd BS is dest' to off. This should solve your problems. Joon Song c60c@web.berkeley.edu
dblack@pilot.njin.net (David Alan Black) (09/13/90)
Neil Weisenfeld (weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) writes: >Bingo. From the Alt-O menu, choose Terminal options. Then set >'Receive BS Destructive' to off. If this works, go to your dialing >menu and edit the appropriate entries, making the same change. >Forgetting this last step was the source of just about everyone >(including myself) reporting that Telix had a bug where it would keep >resetting the paramter to 'ON'. The buggy part of it, I've found, is that even if you set destructive backspace OFF in the configuration file, it will be ON in the Alt-O/ Terminal Options menu when you start Telix. In theory, the configuration file should govern the initial setting, so that even if you dial directly (atdt), without using the dialing directory, the options will be set the way you want them. It's in this sense that Telix seems to keep resetting it to ON - it's not reading its own configuration file properly. David Black dblack@pilot.njin.net
ce1zzes@prism.gatech.EDU (Eric Sheppard) (09/13/90)
In article <29424@netnews.upenn.edu>, weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Neil Weisenfeld) writes: > In article <2249@peyote.cactus.org> woan@peyote.cactus.org (Ronald S. Woan) writes: > > Bingo. From the Alt-O menu, choose Terminal options. Then set > 'Receive BS Destructive' to off. If this works, go to your dialing > menu and edit the appropriate entries, making the same change. > Forgetting this last step was the source of just about everyone > (including myself) reporting that Telix had a bug where it would keep > resetting the paramter to 'ON'. Indeed, you can edit the destructive backspace feature in the dial directory. It *doesn't* work for the initial startup condition; I use Telix with a direct 9600 baud connection to a terminal server. I have no modem to dial. The TELIX.CNF configuration file explicitly says 'DestBS=Off'; but it continues to enable destructive backspace on startup. If that's not a bug, then we both have distinctly different ideas of the 'bug' concept. Does anyone have any ideas on circumventing this annoying 'feature'? Eric, tinkerer-at-large -- Eric Sheppard Georgia Tech | "Of course the US Constitution isn't Atlanta, GA | perfect; but it's a lot better than what ARPA: ce1zzes@prism.gatech.edu | we have now." -Unknown uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ce1zzes
funkstr@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Larry Hastings) (09/15/90)
+-In article <933@sppy00.UUCP>, | jwm@sppy00.UUCP (MAY JEFFREY W.) wrote: | | Simple solution to the destructive backspace problem: write a short SALT | program and have it invoked as the initial startup macro. | +---------- Actually, it's even easier than that, guys and gals. One of the options on the Edit sub-menu of the Dial menu is, you guessed it, "Rcvd BS is dest", or (translated to English) "Recieved Backspace is destructive". Simply edit all the numbers in your dialing directory and turn this off, and you will be a happy camper. And, by the way, "Rcvd BS is dest" is _always_ by default ON, even when you have "Recieved Backspace destructive" set to OFF on the Telix options/terminal menu. C'est bug? Oui, en petite bug. -- larry hastings, the galactic funkster, funkstr@ucscb.ucsc.edu I don't speak for Knowledge Dynamics or UC Santa Cruz, nor do they speak for me "You may remember I died suffocating on my own vomit. That was a bummer of a way to go." --Keith Moon (ex-Who drummer) through a "channeler" from the "Sun"
swu@seer.UUCP (Shawn Wu) (09/17/90)
In article <933@sppy00.UUCP> jwm@sppy00.UUCP (MAY JEFFREY W.) writes: > >Simple solution to the destructive backspace problem: write a short SALT >program and have it invoked as the initial startup macro. Include a line [ SALT script example deleted ] That is known as doing it the hard way. The second to last option on the Telix configure menu is "Write setup to disk." And that's all you need to do right after changing the destructive backspace setting. And even *simpler* solution, no? --Shawn swu@seer.UUCP ...!uunet!seeker!seer!swu
glf@sppy00.UUCP (Hill) (09/18/90)
In article <592@seer.UUCP> swu@seer.UUCP (Shawn Wu) writes: >In article <933@sppy00.UUCP> jwm@sppy00.UUCP (MAY JEFFREY W.) writes: >> >>Simple solution to the destructive backspace problem: write a short SALT >>program and have it invoked as the initial startup macro. Include a line >[ SALT script example deleted ] > >That is known as doing it the hard way. The second to last option on >the Telix configure menu is "Write setup to disk." And that's all you >need to do right after changing the destructive backspace setting. And >even *simpler* solution, no? > >--Shawn > swu@seer.UUCP > ...!uunet!seeker!seer!swu Yes, one would think so. Perhaps you missed the original posting. Even with the destructive backspace set off in the setup, Telix *still* comes up with it on. The SALT script is the only automated way to turn it off again at startup (at least until the program is updated :-=}) -=< Greg >=- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Greg Feldman-Hill {seismo|cbosgd}!osu-cis!sppy00!glf -OR- gfh@rsch.oclc.org OCLC - Online Computer Library Center ... Dublin, Ohio "If winning is not important, then Commander, why keep score?" -- Worf
ralphs@halcyon.wa.com (Ralph Sims) (09/18/90)
swu@seer.UUCP (Shawn Wu) writes: > the Telix configure menu is "Write setup to disk." And that's all you > need to do right after changing the destructive backspace setting. And > even *simpler* solution, no? No. It won't work. Try it. For some unknown-to-us reason, TELIX re-writes the setting to the 'default'. -- Remember when dethroning idols to save the pedestals--they may come in handy...
feustel@netcom.UUCP (David Feustel) (09/20/90)
The destructive backspace can also be turned off by editing the dialing directory entry for the bbs. -- David Feustel, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805, (219) 482-9631
ralphs@halcyon.wa.com (Ralph Sims) (09/20/90)
feustel@netcom.UUCP (David Feustel) writes: > The destructive backspace can also be turned off by editing the dialing > directory entry for the bbs. 1. Edit TELIX.CNF 2. Exit TELIX 3. Start TELIX 4. Read TELIX.CNF 5. Note that TELIX re-wrote the TELIX.CNF file back do what _it_ wanted to start off with. If your version keeps the change, then you've got one thousands others don't.