[net.ham-radio] Antenna for the winter

mack@mlokai.DEC (12/03/85)

If I can't get some help, it looks like I'll be off the air for the winter.
Help!

	I live on the second floor of a 3-story building.  The entire second
	floor is my apartment.  The woman I am renting it from lives upstairs.
	I live in the city of Lawrence in a neighborhood with a lot of big
	Victorian houses all practically on top of one another.  Our "yard"
	consists of a 7 foot by 10 foot plot of grass.  The landlady grows
	vegetables in a single row in what was once a flower border next to
	the house.

	The problem.  We moved here in September.  My mother was supposed to
	send me the TA33-Jr that my father had (K1BSB, now silent key), but
	due to shipping costs, she sold it and sent money instead.  This was
	in late October.  We have a 18AVT trap-vertical, but nowhere to put
	radials.  We bought a nice ICOM rig last summer, and would like to be
	able to use it this winter.

	Just as an experiment, in early October, I attached my longest radial
	to my antenna tuner and tried tuning it up.  I started at low power,
	cranked it up a little (about 40 Watts), and got a nice RF burn off
	the control knob.  (Minor problem -- forgot about a ground system.)

	There is a nice place directly below my shack window for a ground rod,
	but its about 15 feet down.  Is that too long for a ground wire?

	Unfortunately, my shack window is fairly close to the place where
	the power comes into the house, so I can't run a dipole around the
	house with the feedpoint at the shack window.

	Does anybody have any good ideas for an antenna for this situation?

						Ralph Mack
						WA1ZCH

stephany.WBST@Xerox.ARPA (12/05/85)

Antenna problem:

A good ground can be made by running more than one wire of different
lengths to the ground stake.  The reasoning is that is one of the wires
is a multiple of a quarter wave, one of the other wires will not be and
will short it.  A good ground should be the first criterion for any ham
installation.

I would suggest a folded dipole for your antenna.  It has the advantage
of : (1) it is balanced and does not depend upon a good ground, (2) it
is horizontal and can be strung inside a room or attic, (3) fits a wide
range of impedances.

Many years ago I strung a 20 meter folded dipole across a room and
worked the world including antartica.  The thing was made of TV 300 ohm
line 10 meters long and was strung through two rooms and supported with
rubberbands and nails.  It was center fed.  The part of the antenna
oppocite the feed point was brought out to two aligator clips.  shorting
these clips gave 20 meters.  Clipping to a piece of 300 ohm line about 2
feet long (cut to get good resonance) gave 15 meters.  A coil scramble
of hookup wire gave 40 meters.  I dont remember what I used for 10, I
think I left it open.

But this was in a home on a hill.  Your location is the most important
factor in the DX you get, not the antenna.

					Joe  N2XS

taylor.WBST@Xerox.ARPA (12/05/85)

	IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A CRYING NEED FOR A GOOD SERIES-TUNED LOOP
ANTENNA.  I WOULD START WITH ABOUT 50 FEET OF LARGE DIAMETER CONDUCTOR
IN A LOOP.  FEED THE "NEAR" END AND RETURN THE "FAR" END THROUGH A
WIDE-SPACED VARIABLE CAPACITOR-- ABOUT 50 PF. MAX. FOR 75 METER BAND.
~1800 PF. MICA CAPACITOR ACROSS THE FEED POINT WILL  HELP THE MATCH. 

		GOOD LUCK!

			JIM (W2OZH)

taylor.WBST@Xerox.ARPA (12/05/85)

	SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A CRYING NEED FOR A SERIES-TUNED LOOP.  I HAVE
BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH THESE ON 75.  I WOULD DRAPE ABOUT 50 FEET OF
LARGE DIAMETER CONDUCTOR (THE OUTER CONDUCTOR OF GOOD RG8/U COAX IS
FINE).  FEED THE "NEAR" END AND RETURN THE "FAR" END TO THE FEED-POINT
GROUND THROUGH A WIDE-SPACED AIR-VARIABLE CAP (~50PF. MAX. FOR 75
METERS).  ~1800 PF. MICA ACROSS THE FEED-POINT HELPS ON THE MATCH.

		GOOD LUCK!

		 	JIM (W2OZH)

KWILLIAMS.ES@Xerox.ARPA (12/05/85)

Get the R-3 vertical.  It is expensive but well worth it for your
situation.  It is a half wave and has a motor driven coil and needs no
radials.  I believe it is made by cushcraft.

Kent  AA6P