mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) (10/31/90)
Does anyone know of a good text editor that can handle VERY large files (on
the order of 1 to 5Meg (don't ask why :-))? I know of the serveral ftp sites,
but I can't tell from the descriptions given in the index files at simtel20
if any there can do spill files and I didn't want to have to ftp ALL of them just to try them out. Right now I'm stuck using EDLIN which is rather slow.
I've tried PCTOOLS editor in PCSHELL, but that's not much better.
Thanks.
Mike
--
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Nexus | right all the time, or not work at all and be right
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[This is the file "editor" in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc archives.]
Common editor requests:
Looking for an editor which ...
1. ... handles files larger than memory.
2. ... handles extra-long lines.
3. ... is Emacs.
4. ... can use extra-large screen sizes.
5. ... is suitable for scientific work.
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Editor which handles files larger than memory
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Article by pstanton@gsb-what.stanford.edu (Richard Stanton) 11 May 90
The editor that comes with PCTOOLS PCSHELL program seems to be able to edit
arbitrarily large files. The whole package costs less than $100, and you get
a lot more than just an editor.
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Article by tih@barsoom.nhh.no (Tom Ivar Helbekkmo) 15 May 90
I usually use JOVE to edit sources under DOS, since I prefer to have
an EMACS clone (well, of course it's less than a clone, but it's darn
good for a DOS editor!). JOVE can edit pretty large files, since it
keeps them buffered on disk, but there's a limit around half a meg
anyway. (Last time I checked; a few versions back.) For really big
files (I now and then have to edit files of a few megs), I keep DVED
handy. That's for Dewar Visual EDitor, a free product from Dewar,
distributed a few years back to promote their other products. The
only requirement is that you have room on your disk for an extra copy
of the file, since it works by transferring the file to an output (new
version) copy, and letting you leaf back and forth in it that way. It
uses very little memory, and can be used to edit large files even when
in a spawned command.com behind another application.
If you need DVED, send me mail, and I'll send you a dved.com.Z.uu by mail.
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Article by jmk@kksys.mn.org (Jim Kaufman) 16 May 90
I highly recommend the Epsilon editor from Lugaru Software. It costs
about $200, but is a highly configurable editor (using a C like language).
You can do ANYTHING with this editor. Their number: 412-421-5911.
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Editor which handles extra-long lines
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Article by nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) 11 May 90
Freemacs will edit any file less than 64K in length, no matter how long
the columns are.
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Article by doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu (David Doerschuk) 12 May 90
PC-WRITE (current version: 3.03) is shareware (NOT PD!) and will handle
essentially unlimited line lengths. Highly recommended.
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Q: maner@andy.bgsu.edu (Walter Maner) 26 May 90
Lines in CompuView's VEDIT can be 8000 characters wide.
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Emacs for the IBM PC
Queries from:
baileyc@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BAILEY CHRISTOPHER R) 9 Mar 90
DLV101@psuvm.psu.edu (Dwaine VanBibber) 1 Jul 90
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Response from wjin@cs.purdue.edu Mon May 28 11:45:15 1990
Jove is the emacs clone and is available in simtel in the dir pd1:<msdos.editor>.
There are other ones like micro emacs, etc but they have limitations like
64K etc. So my preference is jove. But as I am a vi advocator I use jstieve
which is vi clone.
A. BJin
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Response from reisert@tallis.enet.dec.com Mon May 28 12:37:27 1990
There are several. One is FREEMACS (currently up to version 1.6b or
something like that). It has a built-in macro language (MINT) and mouse
support. It claims to be the only one that's truly gnu-EMACS-like.
I use JOVE (Jonathan's Own Version of EMACS). It's more like the EMACS I
use on my VAX at work. This program is up to revision 4.19 or something
like that.
You can obtain these programs from the SIMTEL20 archive server.
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Response from nelson@image.soe.clarkson.edu Mon May 28 22:59:29 1990
Freemacs is a programmable editor. The .EXE file is only 21K because
it only contains a language interpreter and text editor primitives. The
bulk of the programming is done in MINT, which is a string-oriented
language. Freemacs is yet another Emacs clone. Emacs was first written
at MIT by Richard M. Stallman.
There are a number of Emacs clones for the PC available. Freemacs
has three distinguishing characteristics:
o Freemacs is free, and it was designed from the start to be programmable.
o Freemacs is the only IBM-PC editor that tries to be like GNU Emacs.
o Freemacs can only edit files less than 64K in length.
You may freely copy this software. I only ask that you send improvements
back to me for incorporation into the package for the rest of us. The
distribution is available from one or more of the following sources:
EMACS16A ARC The executables and MINT code.
EMACS100 ARC Zenith Z-100 version. Requires EMACS16.
EMACSPEL ARC Spelling checker.
EMACSEGA ARC A collection of EGA utilities
EMAC16AS ARC The .ASM source.
CUHUG BBS:
(315)268-6667 - 1200/2400 8N1, 24 hrs. File area 25. No registration
required to download Freemacs.
Internet:
Anonymous FTP to simtel20.army.mil from PD:<MSDOS.FREEMACS>
Internet:
Anonymous FTP to grape.ecs.clarkson.edu [128.153.13.196] from
/e/freemacs
Bitnet && UUCP:
Send mail to archive-server@sun.soe.clarkson.edu. You may use
archive-server%sun.soe@omnigate if you are on Bitnet, or
{smart-host}!sun.soe.clarkson.edu!archive-server if you are using
UUCP. The mail message should consist of 'help'. If you do not
get a reply within a day, then your return path is broken. You'll
need to use the path command to give a mail address that our mailer
can grok. Our mailer can send mail to any address with an '@' in it,
with the exception of ".UUCP" pseudo-addresses.
Or else send $15 (copying fee) to the author. This will assure you of the
latest version. Please specify floppy format:
5.25", 1.2 Meg
5.25", 360K
3.50", 720K
Russell Nelson
11 Grant St.
Potsdam, NY 13676
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Response from uunet!unido!rwthinf!ruso!axel Tue May 29 08:21:54 1990
Yes, there is a version of emacs. It's called MicroEMACS.
[available on SIMTEL]
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Response from elgaard@rimfaxe.diku.dk Tue May 29 11:56:36 1990
I use MicroEmacs. I use it on both DOS and XENIX. Also JOVE
is running under DOS.
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Response from stanton@Neon.Stanford.EDU Tue May 29 15:44:13 1990
There is no port of GNU Emacs to PC's, but there are some other
versions available.
You might check out the shareware editor Freemacs. I'm not sure how
good it is, but it's available via FTP on the simtel20 archives under
pd1:<msdos.freemacs>.
I have seen other versions of Emacs on SIMTEL20, also, such as
micro-Emacs and JOVE, but I was never very impressed with them.
In my opinion, the *best* programmable editor available for MS-DOS
machines (and SCO Unix and Xenix, I think) is Epsilon by Lugaru
Software. The price is about $200, but this editor can do *anything*.
It is very similar to GNU Emacs, but it uses C for its customization
language, rather than lisp. The built in language is a fully
functional C implementation (minus floating point), which I find much
easier to use than elisp, but then I'm not a lisp hacker. It has many
nifty features, including a process window, like you get in Unix
emacs. I don't know of any other editors that can do a process window
(most just let you shell to DOS, which epsilon also does). It has a
built in C language mode, directory edit mode, and supports tags. The
new version just added a very nice undo/redo command.
Epsilon uses its own disk swapping scheme, so you can load in arbitrarily
large files, and have as many buffers as you like. When you shell to
DOS, it will swap itself out of memory to give you the maximum amount
of memory for your compiles.
Like Freemacs, just about the entire editor was written in EEL
(Epsilon Extension Language), so you can customize it to look like
anything you want. It comes looking a lot like GNU Emacs, though.
The last time I checked, you could get Epsilon from Programmer's
Paradise. They run an ad in Byte every month.
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Response from segre@cs.cornell.edu Wed May 30 10:52:30 1990
I've been using FREEMACS and am pretty happy with it.
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Response from dvnspc1!gary@PRC.Unisys.COM Wed May 30 15:02:02 1990
A version of EMACS appropriately called MicroEMACS is commonly
available from bulletin boards and shareware distributors.
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Response from chip@holin.att.com Thu May 31 20:26:44 1990
Epsilon from Lugaru Software in Pittsburgh, PA is the BEST EMACS for pc's!
If you need the phone # try informantion, or email me back & I'll get it..
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Response from garym@cognos Fri Jun 1 14:01:35 1990
get it from nearly anywhere, and for sure from SIMTEL or from Clarkson,
but _do_ get your hands on FREEMACS....
The following should fully answer your query - note however that the
latest version is now 16a
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Response from hardy@lucid.com 29-MAY-1990 13:15:51.32
MicroEmacs, aka MEMACS; Epsilon, a commercial software offering for
about $200; and freemacs, aka PC-Emacs. The first and last can be
gotten via anonymous ftp from SIMTEL20; the second can be ordered
direct from Lugaru Software Ltd. of Pittsburg PA.
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Response from amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu 29-MAY-1990 13:47:00.91
There are at LEAST 3 versions (no 4). The first is a pay per product, called
E by epilson. It's like $100 but comes with beautiful docs and has several
add on's to the generic version. It will run & jump between multiple
windows & sessions (shells). Well worth the money.
The MOST popular (because of cost) is FREEMACS, It should be available
somewhere on the net, I don't know where & don't have it.
I have a older generic emacs, pcmax (I think) that was reportedly buggy. I've
used it with files up to 700K in length with no problems. I didn't use more
than 2 shells at 1 time & had no problems with that. I did find the search
somewhat buggy, it seems to want to jump to backwards search whenever memory
was getting tight, like with large files.
The others, I've heard somethings about but don't even remember the names.
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Response from 72330.501@CompuServe.COM 1-JUN-1990 22:05:33.44
I personally use MicroEMACS myself, for two reasons. First,
the code is available, and you can modify it to your heart's content, if
you like. Second, it behaves the same over a variety of platforms, from
IBM PCs, to ATARIs and Amigas, to Unix machines, to VMS VAX computers.
Since it is the same editor from machine to machine, i don't have to
learn a new command set every time i shift machines (which i do a lot
of).
MicroEMACS has it's own command language, which does not resemble GNU's.
To me this is a feature, but you of course may feel differently.
MicroEMACS's command language is ordered in a sort of Forward Polish
Notation, which i find very easy to use. The standard set-up file has
many examples.
I should warn you that i have worked on the editor code myself, and so
cannot be considered an unbiased source. Nonetheless, i feel pretty
good about the editor, and heartily recommend it.
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Article by imp@dancer.Solbourne.COM (Warner Losh) 2 Jul 90
Freemacs is not a GNU port. There is no GNU emacs that will run on
PC's. There is, however, MG which is about the same as GNU emacs, but
was based on something else.
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Editor which can use extra-large screen sizes.
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Article by mocker@cs.ucsb.edu (Joseph D. Mocker) 12 May 90
I use BRIEF -- all powerful totally bitchin' editor. I taught it how to
to into 132 x 44 mode. Will supply source code upon request.
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Mail from Russ Nelson <nelson@image.soe.clarkson.edu> 4 Oct 90
FYI, Freemacs will also use big screens, up to 128 rows x 256 columns.
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Editor suitable for scientific work.
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Article by megatest!bbowen@sun.UUCP (Bruce Bowen) 13 May 90
I am looking for a scientific/technical text editor that runs on a
PC clone, ie. one that does integral signs, summation signs, math
symbols, etc. Would kindly individuals please send me information on
what's available and what to look for.
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Article by doug@ozdaltx.UUCP (Doug Matlock) 15 May 90
I used EXP for my dissertation. ... it is WYSIWYG and fairly easy to use.
PC Magazine (v7 n13 July 1988) ran a review of several scientific
wordprocessors. EXP ranked rather low in their listing, but I would
quibble somewhat with their criteria. I guess it all depends on
what you want to do with a word processor.
I have recently seen a product called EXACT which works with most
standard word processors to add scientific capabilities. The demo
looks pretty good, but it's expensive. It's from Technical Support
Software Inc. in Brookline Mass. (617) 734-4130.
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Article by uunet!mitel!infotech (Ross Bannerman) 17 May 90
Chiwriter is not bad for heavy formula related documents,
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Article by christ@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Chris Thompson) 16 May 90
We also use Chiwriter. Although WordPerfect is an incredibly powerful piece
of software, the learning curve is steep. Chiwriter uses up MUCH less disk
space than WP. There are very few folks (comparitively) out there who use
ChiWriter. If you only want to ship hard copy, fine.
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Article by bchs1b@jetson.uh.edu 16 May 90
Wordperfect 5.1 will do math symbols and equations. One key feature is that
it will print any symbol it knows of on any printer in graphics mode without
the printer having to know how to print that symbol. The learning curve for
Wordperfect isn't really that bad as some people have mentioned. Wordperfect
has a large academic discount program.
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Article by motcid!smithju@chg.mcd.mot.com (Justin A. Smith) 16 May 90
I believe CHI WRITER does all the funky stuff,
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Article by baer@uwovax.uwo.ca (Douglas Baer) 16 May 90
I use ChiWriter too, and generally like it, but there are a few "gotchas".
You need to purchase a "laser support disk" (an extra $70 or $80) if you have
a desk jet or a laser. Printing isn't quite as "professional" as the sort of
fonts you are used to getting on a laser (or deskjet with extra fonts) --
though quite workable for class handouts, etc. To improve the quality of
the fonts, you must buy a conographic font set -- more expensive than the
original package I'm told Also, their shipping people don't always have their
act(s) together. ChiWriter is still a fairly decent package.
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Article by GILLA@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Arnold G. Gill) 17 May 90
I get all my CHIWRITER upgrades for $8 only. The only good word processor
for journals is TeX in its various dialects. TeX is, however, not the
easiest thing to use (LaTeX is better for that, I hear).
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Article by steube@euclid.MATH.ColoState.Edu (Kenneth Earl Steube) 24 May 90
I have used TeX, and have found it to be a pain in the neck. Keep in mind
that TeX is meant to be a typesetter for books. But, if you enjoy using
powerful programs that produce excellent documents, then do learn TeX.
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Article by RR.PPE@forsythe.stanford.edu 15 May 90
Version 5.1 of WordPerfect can handle equations and mathematical symbols.
There is an old program called T3 which also can do that, but I have read
that it does not do it as well as WP5.1
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Article by shepard@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Brett Shepard) 16 May 90
I believe that WordPerfect 5.1 is _supposed_ to handle things like that quite
nicely.
I havn't yet scraped together the reasons or the cash for the upgrade, so I'm
not positive about its abilities.
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Article by sorenr@daimi.dk (Soren Rehne) 16 May 90
Microsoft Word for PC is an amazing program. At the university we got Latex
for Sunstations and HP's, but I must say that a lot of people prefere
MicroSoft Word for their reports!
It is easy to learn and to use, and you will be able to do a lot of fancy
things in no time.
I recommend Word over WordPerfect, also because it is totally integrated with
Windows's other products.
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Article by mireley@horus.cem.msu.EDU (John Mireley) 16 May 90
We use Word version 5.0 and its support for setting any type of equation is
non-existant. In fact, one prof has the equations done using TeX and then
pastes them into the Word document.
Word for Windows is a much better choice but it requires at least a
286, slow, and a Windows driver for your display. We have been evaluating
it and have concluded that we probably won't use it until we upgrade to
at least 386sx machines. The equation formatting still doesn't compare
to the quality of TeX. I don't think that the formatting system in
Word for Windows is any easier to learn than TeX.
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Article by richard@iesd.auc.dk (Richard Flamsholt S0rensen) 16 May 90
There are a number of LaTeX-implementations available for the PC too.
In my opinion, this is the ultimate solution for someone who wants to produce
text of a high standard on a PC and aren't scared of the fact, that the text
processing really is done by a compiler. The printerfonts for e.g. PC-TeX
are *really* nice and almost makes output from a STAR-LC10 look like that of
a laser printer (at that resolution it does, however, take 15-20 min to
produce one page ...)
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Article by bobo@hpcvra.CV.HP.COM (Bob O'Donnell) 16 May 90
I use EXP, marketed by Wadsworth and Cole, a book publisher. It produces
very complex arrays of symbols and puts it on the screen as close to WYSIWYG
as anything I have ever run across. list price $150.
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Article by gerry@cive.ri.cmu.edu (Gerry Roston) 17 May 90
IMHO there are NO good WYSIWYG text-editors to do scientific
work. I have used Microsoft Word (on Macs), FrameMaker (on
Suns) and others. Your best best is TeX or LaTeX.
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Article by wjin@cs.purdue.EDU (Woochang Jin) 17 May 90
I am using emTeX on my DOS pc. I used TeX/X-window in the lab. I found that
emTEX is not worse at all. The package includes almost everything you need.
TeX, LaTeX, BiBTeX, Printer Drviers, Previewers, MetaFont, Web, MFwares,
TeXwares, Fonts...
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Article by marwk@levels.sait.edu.au 3 Jun 90
There is much discussion about different technical word processors, but
if you want a professional package you will have to pay for it (about $800,
I think) and you will buy a package will will last you a life time.
I do not receive royalties for my recommendation for TRIAD's T-cubed (T3)
product, and they don't let on if they see my recommendations of it, but
it is one incredible piece of software ingenuity.
I have a bought a personal copy of it I think it is so great, and CHI-writer
a crude pretender in comparison.
Some (miniscule) info on it is as follows:
T3 (T-cubed) is a WYSIWIG scientific word-processing system.
All special structures and characet attributes are displayed on screen.
This includes built-up mathematical expressions (25 levels of super- and
sub-scripts), chemistry structures (very many are available with the package
and you can build your own in a simple, sensible way, seeing immediately
what they look like). Build your own macro files: over 1000 are provided
for technical writing with very sensible names (and if you do not remember then
you can choos form a list, or various lists).
Use up to 16 fonts in a document, 40 fonts are provided, more available.
Cyrillic, European, and many other languages come standard. Hebrew is also
available. I believe they are working on Chinese and/or Japanese.
Symbol fonts have all the symbols I have required, but if they are not enough,
crete your own fonts while in T3 and print them directly to see what they look
like and make appropriate changes; I have made my own several times and modified
some of the standard symbols to my own liking.
With postscript printers you can merge graphics illustrations.
8 separate print regions on the page, supporting 4-column printing.
Life-time free support from TCI Inc. to registered users- no charge.
Fast menu driven interface with the choice of on-line help.
The most consistent interface of any program I have have ever used - it has
been desiged with a consistent philosophy, which, when understood, makes T3
easy to use in any situation.
Spelling checker in merican, English, Germa, French, ...
Import other documents as ASCII files, and others.
Documentation includes a reference manual, tutorial (228 pages of very, very
clear instructions) and a quick reference guide.
Automatic numbering and placement of footnotes and endnotes.
Many different type-faces, including proportional fonts.
Mail merge facility.
Automatic document save - the user can set the time interval.
Password access to documents (although the text in the files can still be
read amongst the control characters by using a debugger, for example)
Requires IBM PC, XT, AT, PS/2 640K, fixed disk, supports CGA,EGA,VGA, Hercules,
AT&T 6300, Vectra, Compaq III portable,...
100's of printers supported.
Future enhancements include: inclusion of database facility for bibliographies!
: convert document to TEX format.
: Mouse/iconic interface (which I think is a bad idea)
: Index generation
There is also a regular newsletter.
The parts I like best is the ease with which multi-super- and sub-scripted
formulae can be edited, and the interface.
T3 is a joy to use!
I was one of the first users in SA to use T3 - February 1985 and I still feel
the same way about the product, especially with all the wonderful enhancements
they have made during this time.
For further information, I suggest you contact:
TIA: Technical Imports Australia Pty. Ltd.
Suite 602, 6th floor
220 Pacific Highway
Crows Nest
NSW 2065
PO Box 176
Crows Nest
NSW
2065
(02) 922 6833
TELEX: AA22922 (POSSY)
FAX: (02) 925 0311
Contact: Peter Hew
Ask for the latest brochure and a printout of the T3 Demonstration Document.
A demonstration version is also available.
In USA contact TRIAD Inc. in New Mexico.
Ray Kennington
South Australian Institute of Technology
Disclaimer: My thoughts are my own and may not reflect my employer's not
TRIAD's.
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Article by uunet!hsi!tankus (Ed Tankus) 4 Jun 90
I tried Chiwriter from Horstman Software in San Jose, CA USA. I was
looking for an inexpensive wordprocessing package that would also
handle scientific information. This filled the bill!
The complete product with all the disks (it's modular) is about $250.
This includes multiple fonts, postscript and LaserJet support, spelling
checker, EGA/VGA support, mailmerge, and more.
ChiWriter is available at
Horstmann Software
140 E. San Carlos
Suite 200
P.O. Box 5039
San Jose, CA 95150
(408) 298-0828einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) (10/31/90)
In article <1574@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) writes: >Does anyone know of a good text editor that can handle VERY large files (on >the order of 1 to 5Meg (don't ask why :-))? I know of the serveral ftp sites, >but I can't tell from the descriptions given in the index files at simtel20 >if any there can do spill files and I didn't want to have to ftp ALL of them just to try them out. Right now I'm stuck using EDLIN which is rather slow. >I've tried PCTOOLS editor in PCSHELL, but that's not much better. Dare I say 'edlin'? :-) edlin keeps text on disk -- Internet: einari@rhi.hi.is | "Just give me my command line and throw UUCP: ..!mcsun!isgate!rhi!einari | the GUIs in the waste basket!!!!" General Surgeons warning: Masking the 8th bit can seriously damage your brain!!
ESR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Ed Russell) (11/02/90)
In article <1574@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) writes: >Does anyone know of a good text editor that can handle VERY large files (on >the order of 1 to 5Meg (don't ask why :-))? I know of the serveral ftp sites, >but I can't tell from the descriptions given in the index files at simtel20 >if any there can do spill files and I didn't want to have to ftp ALL of them just to try them out. Right now I'm stuck using EDLIN which is rather slow. >I've tried PCTOOLS editor in PCSHELL, but that's not much better. In the DOS environment KEDIT (Mansfield Software) will use up to 4M of EMS (LIM >= 3.2).
rick@wet.UUCP (Rick Rutledge) (11/04/90)
mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) writes: >Does anyone know of a good text editor that can handle VERY large files (on >the order of 1 to 5Meg (don't ask why :-))? I know of the serveral ftp sites, I use PE, the WordPerfect Program Editor, which is like a scaled-down version of WordPerfect, but which handles ASCII files directly. Like WP, it uses swap-to-disk for handling files exceeding memory size. A file that size may load quite slowly, but it will edit and save without problems. I think it's still part of the WordPerfect Library. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rick Rutledge {hoptoad|ucsfcca|claris}!wet!rick rick@wet.UUCP "Voici le secret." dit le renard. "On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible aux yeux." -Antoine de St. Exupery, _le Petit Prince_
mahrk@ccicpg.UUCP (Mark Hull-Richter) (11/08/90)
In article <1574@umriscc.isc.umr.edu>, mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) writes: } Does anyone know of a good text editor that can handle VERY large files (on } the order of 1 to 5Meg (don't ask why :-))? I know of the serveral ftp sites, } but I can't tell from the descriptions given in the index files at simtel20 } if any there can do spill files and I didn't want to have to ftp ALL of them just to try them out. Right now I'm stuck using EDLIN which is rather slow. } I've tried PCTOOLS editor in PCSHELL, but that's not much better. } } Thanks. } } Mike } -- } Mike Castle | Life is like a clock: You can work constantly and be } Nexus | right all the time, or not work at all and be right } S087891@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU | at least twice a day. } mcastle@cs.umr.edu | Love does not exist anymore. I understand your desire in this regard, as well as your frustration with PCTOOLS' editor. Try the Norton editor - it isn't very expensive, has lots of nice features (lacks a few, too, but what the heck...) and will handle files of unlimited size. I use it mainly for document preparation and non-Turbo program editing (i.e., assembler), and I have found it to be quite convenient. Just my $.02 worth. -- Mark A. Hull-Richter, Software Engineering Specialist I (714)458-7282x539 ICL, 9801 Muirlands Boulevard, Irvine, CA 92713 To err is human; to forgive is not my policy. UUCP: ccicpg!mahrk or ccicpg!{lanski|al}!mhr flames > /dev/null
hagins@gamecock.rtp.dg.com (Jody Hagins) (11/11/90)
You might try to get elvis off c.b.i.p It was posted sometime last week. Also, the sources were posted to alt.sources about 1-2 montsh ago. It is a vi editor, and is great. I think the only limit is your disk size since it keeps a tmp file around. Jody
ph62303@tut.fi (Hartoma Petri Juhani) (11/14/90)
In article <1574@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) writes: > Does anyone know of a good text editor that can handle VERY large files (on > the order of 1 to 5Meg (don't ask why :-))? I know of the serveral ftp sites, > but I can't tell from the descriptions given in the index files at simtel20 > if any there can do spill files and I didn't want to have to ftp ALL of them just to try them out. Right now I'm stuck using EDLIN which is rather slow. Washington Editor in SIMTEL20 is worth trying and inexpensive alternative to WP and other full-blown "editors". It's in <msdos.editor> as wed410.arc.
QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (11/16/90)
In article <1990Nov10.180327.23189@dg-rtp.dg.com>, hagins@gamecock.rtp.dg.com (Jody Hagins) says: > >You might try to get elvis off c.b.i.p >It was posted sometime last week. Also, the sources were posted to >alt.sources about 1-2 montsh ago. > > >It is a vi editor, and is great. I think the only limit is >your disk size since it keeps a tmp file around. Has the problem with lost clusters on the hard disk been fixed (caused I think by unlinking files ala un*x which DOS doesn't like)? Thanks. Alan Thew University of Liverpool Computer Laboratory Bitnet/Earn: QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK or QQ11%UK.AC.LIVERPOOL @ UKACRL UUCP : ....!mcsun!ukc!liv!qq11 Voice: +44 51 794 3735 Internet : QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK or QQ11%LIVERPOOL.AC.UK @ NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK