[comp.os.msdos.apps] Scientific Plotting Package under MSDOS?

<J0S@psuvm.psu.edu> (03/26/91)

I recently observed (and was very impressed by) the 3-D graphical
output from a Mac. scientific spreadsheet program called, I believe,
WINGS.  The display was a 3-D surface hanging above a contour
projection of the same data.  Rather than using meshes and contour
lines, they used color encoding at the pixel level to encode data
values.  Hidden portions of the surface were also hidden on the 3-D
display.

Are you aware of any programs like this running under MSDOS?

Thanks, Jack Sharer, j0s@psuvm.psu.edu

gettys@yacht.enet.dec.com (Bob Gettys) (03/27/91)

	Wingz is also available on the PC to run under MS-Windows V3. I don't
know if it has all the capability of its MAC counterpart, though.

	/s/	Bob Gettys

cn9gr8ad@hydra.unm.edu (03/27/91)

In article <21458@shlump.nac.dec.com> gettys@yacht.enet.dec.com (Bob Gettys) writes:
>
>	Wingz is also available on the PC to run under MS-Windows V3. I don't
>know if it has all the capability of its MAC counterpart, though.
>
>	/s/	Bob Gettys

    A program called AXUM is also available that has some nice features
	for 2-D, 3-D, and projection graphs.  One of the major 
	drawbacks of most plotting packages that i have looked at 
	for the PC is the fact that they are written mainly for 
	" business " applications ( i.e. pie charts, bar graphs ),
	and dont usually offer many " scientific " options
	( i.e. 3-D log,log,log ).   If anyone out there has a 
	favorite, fire a line to me..  Im still in the pursuit of
	the ultimate PC based 3-D plotter for " scientific data ".

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   ...je
cn9gr8ad@hydra.unm.edu

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rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) (03/27/91)

In article <91085.095650J0S@psuvm.psu.edu> J0S@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>I recently observed (and was very impressed by) the 3-D graphical
>output from a Mac. scientific spreadsheet program called, I believe,
>WINGS.  The display was a 3-D surface hanging above a contour
>projection of the same data.  Rather than using meshes and contour
>lines, they used color encoding at the pixel level to encode data
>values.  Hidden portions of the surface were also hidden on the 3-D
>display.
>
>Are you aware of any programs like this running under MSDOS?

There is a version of Wingz (that's the correct spelling) for Microsoft
Windows 3.0.

However, Quattro Pro will do the same thing without Windows.

cd5340@mars.njit.edu (David Charlap) (03/27/91)

In article <91085.095650J0S@psuvm.psu.edu> J0S@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>I recently observed (and was very impressed by) the 3-D graphical
>output from a Mac. scientific spreadsheet program called, I believe,
>WINGS.  The display was a 3-D surface hanging above a contour
>projection of the same data.  Rather than using meshes and contour
>lines, they used color encoding at the pixel level to encode data
>values.  Hidden portions of the surface were also hidden on the 3-D
>display.
>
>Are you aware of any programs like this running under MSDOS?
>
The spreadsheet program "Wingz" by Informix has been released for
Microsoft Windows.  I don't recall it being a scientific plotting 
package, though.  I have seen "Mathematica" for the Mac, and it is
quite impressive (it's what the ads in our college newspaper have
shown recently).  Unfortunately, the IBM version requires a 386, a
math chip, and still won't plot to the screen.  Only the Mac and
Sun versions will do that.
--
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rhoward@msd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) (03/28/91)

cn9gr8ad@hydra.unm.edu writes:

>    A program called AXUM is also available that has some nice features
>	for 2-D, 3-D, and projection graphs.

I found it a bit cumbersome (too may choices) and got frustrated
with it but it was definitely pretty good at scientific plots.

I have also acquired Graftool from 3D-Visions.  You can't touch this
package for capabilities.  It is, however, *SLOW* (let me repeat
S-L-O-W).  If they could speed it up it would be great (it still
might be the best if you want great output in the scentific arena).

Robert
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wagner@chepil.weru.ksu.edu (Larry Wagner) (03/28/91)

cn9gr8ad@hydra.unm.edu writes:

>In article <21458@shlump.nac.dec.com> gettys@yacht.enet.dec.com (Bob Gettys) writes:
>>
>>	Wingz is also available on the PC to run under MS-Windows V3. I don't
>>know if it has all the capability of its MAC counterpart, though.
>>
>>	/s/	Bob Gettys

>    A program called AXUM is also available that has some nice features
>	for 2-D, 3-D, and projection graphs.  One of the major 
>	drawbacks of most plotting packages that i have looked at 
>	for the PC is the fact that they are written mainly for 
>	" business " applications ( i.e. pie charts, bar graphs ),
>	and dont usually offer many " scientific " options
>	( i.e. 3-D log,log,log ).   If anyone out there has a 
>	favorite, fire a line to me..  Im still in the pursuit of
>	the ultimate PC based 3-D plotter for " scientific data ".


You may want to try SigmaPlot 4.0 by Jandel Scientific.
It is definitely a scientific graphing package as opposed to all the
"business" graphics packages like Harvard Graphics.  It will handle
many types of plots like log-log, log-normal, log-probability (only one I know
that can do this one - which I needed) , etc.  It has very good capabilities
to deal with data transformation (I was able to construct the complimentary
error function (erfx) filter with it's macro capabilities.  It is menu driven
(a little bit mazy but once you have created your template, plotting different
sets of data is pretty straight-forward).  It only handles 2D plots.  We run
it on a 20MHz 386 machine with a coprocessor.  I suspect it would be a little
slow on 8088 machines.  It will use 800x600 extended VGA screen modes which is
very nice for viewing the plot(s) on the screen. Data is displayed and manipulated
in a spreadsheet-like manner.

These are some of the things I can think of off the top of my head that I have
liked about the program and my personal impressions.  It has fulfilled our current
plotting needs under DOS.  Their may be other packages that can do the things
SigmaPlot can do that I don't know about.  I do seem to remember reading a review
about scientific graphing packages recently in PC Magazine (I think it was this
magazine).  It rated another package tops that I know nothing about.  They hit
SigmaPlot for not having 3D capabilities, but I don't need that right now.

Here is their address:

Jandel Scientific
65 Koch Road
Corte Madera, CA  94925
(415)924-8640
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bb16@prism.gatech.EDU (Scott Bostater) (03/28/91)

In article <1991Mar27.174444.2945@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> wagner@chepil.weru.ksu.edu (Larry Wagner) writes:

[stuff about other plotting packages deleted]
>
>You may want to try SigmaPlot 4.0 by Jandel Scientific.
>It is definitely a scientific graphing package as opposed to all the
>"business" graphics packages like Harvard Graphics.  It will handle
>many types of plots like log-log, log-normal, log-probability (only one I know
>that can do this one - which I needed) , etc.  It has very good capabilities

Laser Graphics (shareware) can also do log-probability through the use of an
optional Axis Specification File (ASF).  I've used it to generate Weibull plots
where the y-axis is something along the lines of ln(ln(1/(1-F))).  The ASF file
allows the user to explicitly specify where to draw tick marks, grid lines,
and what values to associate with them.

Laser Graphics handles 2-d, 3-d, scatter, and polar plots (sorry, no contour
plots which was the original question in this thread).  It supports Herc, CGA,
EGA, and VGA monitors as well as Epson 9-pin, Epson 24-pin, IBM Proprinter,
PCL-4 laser printers and PCL-5 laser printers (with data compression).

Laser Graphics can be found on simtel20.army.mil as:
   PD1:<MSDOS.PLOT>LASER34a.zip through PD1:<MSDOS.PLOT>LASER34e.zip

DISCLAIMER: I work with the author so I'm naturally biased.


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mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Doug McDonald) (03/28/91)

In article <1991Mar27.010612.21633@njitgw.njit.edu> cd5340@mars.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>I have seen "Mathematica" for the Mac, and it is
>quite impressive (it's what the ads in our college newspaper have
>shown recently). 


>Unfortunately, the IBM version requires a 386, a
>math chip,

true. A 486 is better.

>and still won't plot to the screen. 

ABSOLUTELY WRONG. It plots very nicely to the screen.




Doug McDonald

gershon%gr.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Elber Gershon) (03/29/91)

In article <1991Mar27.192143.4815@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> khc@elmo.eece.ksu.edu (Kenneth H. Carpenter) writes:
>A very good scientific plotting package, which lacks some of the
>polish of the commerical models, but still can make presentation
>quailty graphs on a variety of devices, and is "freeware" is
>gnuplot2.2.  It can be obtained on the net.  Check the sources archives
 ^^^^^^^^^^
 gnuplot2.02
>and Simtel.

And if you will ftp the 3d patches from cs.utah.edu, pub/gnuplot3d.shar.Z
you will be able to plot surfaces and contour them.

Gershon
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