[comp.os.msdos.apps] Formatted DOS Text from WP5.1

mtp@mold.zso.dec.com (Mike Peterson) (05/28/91)

    
    I have a 70 page document to be printed.  The complication is that
    it needs to be printed in two forms:  First, it must be printable
    on our local laser printer.  This is no problem since WP supplies a
    printer driver for our printer.  I just print the file to the disk and
    users who have this printer can snarf it and print it in the usual ways.
    
    Other users, however, have a variety of dot-matrix printers.  To provide
    the document in a form that ALL of them can use, I need to print a file to
    disk that is plain, vanilla DOS text.  Moreover, it is important to
    preserve the basic format of the document (e.g., page numbering, table of
    contents, index, and glossary).  The different fonts and bolded/italicized
    words are not vital.
    
    Text In/Out does not work, nor does convert.exe work.  These two
    techniques do not generate page breaks except for hard <CR> and, since it
    is not a print file, no page numbers, headers, etc., are generated.
    
    Can this be done?  Print a formatted WP document as simple DOS text?
    
    Regards,
    
    /mtp
    
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monett_s@cho006.cho.ge.com (05/29/91)

In article <1520@rust.zso.dec.com>, mtp@mold.zso.dec.com (Mike Peterson)
> 
>     
>     I have a 70 page document to be printed.  
>
>           . . .
>
>     Other users, however, have a variety of dot-matrix printers.  To provide
>     the document in a form that ALL of them can use, I need to print a file to
>     disk that is plain, vanilla DOS text.  Moreover, it is important to
>     preserve the basic format of the document (e.g., page numbering, table of
>     contents, index, and glossary).  The different fonts and bolded/italicized
>     words are not vital.

If you go into the WordPerfect printer selection screen and select
"other printers", one of the ones you will find listed is "Standard".
This is the name that WP chose for the most basic text device. It
assumes that the printer is capable of printing upper and lower case at
10 cpi and that the print head can be moved to the left margin without
causing a line feed. Given those parameters **every** dot matrix printer
will work. It will not give you a plain text document though. There will
be characters repeated several times for bold and other stuff thrown in
for underline.
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rkim@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Suro) (05/29/91)

In article <1520@rust.zso.dec.com> mtp@mold.zso.dec.com (Mike Peterson) writes:
>
>    
>    Other users, however, have a variety of dot-matrix printers.  To provide
>    the document in a form that ALL of them can use, I need to print a file to
>    disk that is plain, vanilla DOS text.  Moreover, it is important to
>    preserve the basic format of the document (e.g., page numbering, table of
>    contents, index, and glossary).  The different fonts and bolded/italicized
>    words are not vital.
>    
>    Text In/Out does not work, nor does convert.exe work.  These two
>    techniques do not generate page breaks except for hard <CR> and, since it
>    is not a print file, no page numbers, headers, etc., are generated.
>    
>    Can this be done?  Print a formatted WP document as simple DOS text?
>    
Yes.  Select a generic printer (like DOS text printer) and install
it where your .prs files reside.  All of your users can do the same,
and the generic printer will retain tbl. of contents, pg. numbering,
etc, and also bold (Ithink), but not italics and underline (I
think).  This, I believe, will help solve your problem.

Another way is to give the document as is to your users.  WP will
reformat the doc according to the printer driver the user is using.
So for example, if you're using Apple LaserWriter IINT and some
other guy uses Panasonic KX-P1124, Wp will reformat the document and
provide the closest matched font for the dot matrix.  Of course, if
you already haven't specified, you must re-choose the correct
printer.  I think this is the best way, in that you lose nothing
during the conversion.

good luck,

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Robert W. Kim                            rkim@ucsd.edu
University of California, San Diego.     suro@ucsd.edu
"I'd love to go out with you, but I have to floss my cat."

mcc@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Merton Campbell Crockett) (06/02/91)

In article <1520@rust.zso.dec.com> mtp@mold.zso.dec.com (Mike Peterson) writes:


>    I have a 70 page document to be printed.  The complication is that
>    it needs to be printed in two forms:  First, it must be printable
>    on our local laser printer.  This is no problem since WP supplies a
>    printer driver for our printer.  I just print the file to the disk and
>    users who have this printer can snarf it and print it in the usual ways.

>    Other users, however, have a variety of dot-matrix printers.  To provide
>    the document in a form that ALL of them can use, I need to print a file to
>    disk that is plain, vanilla DOS text.  Moreover, it is important to
>    preserve the basic format of the document (e.g., page numbering, table of
>    contents, index, and glossary).  The different fonts and bolded/italicized
>    words are not vital.

>    Text In/Out does not work, nor does convert.exe work.  These two
>    techniques do not generate page breaks except for hard <CR> and, since it
>    is not a print file, no page numbers, headers, etc., are generated.

>    Can this be done?  Print a formatted WP document as simple DOS text?


The answer is yes.  In the print menu select the DOS text printer.  You may
have to go back to the printer diskette distribution if you failed to include
the DOS text printer as an option.

After selecting the DOS text printer, select option 3 to edit the printer
characteristics.  Instead of the default LPT1: printer output, redirect the
output to a disk file by specifying its path (optionally) and file name.

Exit back to the initial print screen and press 1 to print the document.
I'll make the gross assumption that your printer is currently defined as
a LN03 and you are using a proportional spacing font.  Also, that the doc-
ument needs to be capable of being passed through VMS Mail and ALL-IN-FUN.

If that be a fair assumption and if the document must be identical regardless
of form, you will probably have to go back and set your initial page defaults
for 10 cpi.  Your LN03 would then have to be set for 10 cpi for printing
the hardcopy document as well.

Noting that you're with Digital, do you have a utility to convert WordPerfect
5.1 files to VAX Document SGML format?

Merton Campbell Crockett