David L. Phillips <PZ2@psuvm.psu.edu> (06/20/91)
In article <1991Jun20.150618.18242@ssd.kodak.com>, herpst@kims.kodak.com says: > >I've got to upgrade either PCTools or >Norton Utilities? > >Which Is better for DOS 5.0? > PC Tools 7.0 has just been released. It was designed specifically to work with MS-DOS 5.0. In fact, DOS5 includes three of the PC Tools utilities.
herpst@kims.kodak.com (06/20/91)
I've got to upgrade either PCTools or Norton Utilities? Which Is better for DOS 5.0? Which is Better for WIN 3.0? Any other Thought? Please post or send e-mail to following address. Thanks..... ========================================================== Dan Herpst (716) 461-2360 I've been down so long, Rochester NY (716) 726-6806 that it looks like up to me. Address: herpst%kims.dnet@kodak.com ==========================================================
larry@birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) (06/26/91)
herpst@kims.kodak.com writes: > I've got to upgrade either PCTools or > Norton Utilities? > > Which Is better for DOS 5.0? > > Which is Better for WIN 3.0? > > Any other Thought? > > Please post or send e-mail to following address. > > Thanks..... I cannot talk about Norton, I just do not know. What I do know is that PC Tools 7 is in very bad shape. I installed the upgrade over the weekend, and de-installed it when I had to restore the boot partition on by hard disk because I believe that PC Tools trashed it when I ran its windows apps. That's not all. I installed DOS 5.0 last week. That went on very clean. After several evenings of fiddling with config.sys and autoexec.bat getting things to work to my liking I have found no bugs. PC Tools is another story. There are a number of bugs that trash the screen requiring a "mode con: cols=43 lines=80" to set it back straight; the mouse dissappears occasionally (vanilla MS-Mouse driver loaded high); the PC Shell "prune/graft" directory maintenance function locked my machine up solid. The list goes on... Central Point conducts a support forum on Compuserve. I checked some of the messages there over the weekend. Flame is hardly the word for it! The problems discussed there make mine seem trivial. Especially watch out for CP Backup! According to the discussion there whether you get a good backup is doubtful. In my opinion, Central Point rushed this product to market to make its presence with MS-DOS 5.0. I called them this morning asking how to get a refund. They would not comply. My advice to you is to avoid Central Point's PC Tools version 7.0; wait for 7.1. As released, I beleive you are putting your hard disk at great risk. The product will not appear on my machine until they ship me new product *WITH A LIST OF FIXED BUGS*. Further, I am recommending to my clients that they not install PC Tools V7. Your mileage, of course, may vary. Regards, larry. +-- Lawrence T. Hardiman --+-- larry@birdsong.Suvl.CA.US -----------------+ | The Birdsong Company | | | POBox 2031 | If it hasn't been tested, it won't work! | | Sunnyvale, CA 94087-2031 | | +--------------------------+----------------------------------------------+
Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (06/27/91)
In article <2Zo542w164w@birdsong>, larry@birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) wrote: }herpst@kims.kodak.com writes: }I cannot talk about Norton, I just do not know. What I do know is }that PC Tools 7 is in very bad shape. I installed the upgrade over }the weekend, and de-installed it when I had to restore the boot }partition on by hard disk because I believe that PC Tools trashed it }when I ran its windows apps. While I haven't encountered anything that drastic, I did find a dozen bugs just in my first look at PCT7. I've been with PCTools since v5.1, and this is by far the buggiest release. I haven't tried PC-Cache 7 yet, and I don't think I'm going to.... Some of the things are really obvious, like the several black-on-black entries in the default LCD color scheme, missing borders on windows in text mode (I guess they only tested in the pseudo-graphics mode), and the appointment calendar in the desktop not accepting color changes. }I called them this morning asking how to get a refund. They would not }comply. Try again. Considering that their upgrade flyer gives you a 60-day money- back guarantee, they had better comply. If you want the refund, hold them to their advertising. -- {backbone}!cs.cmu.edu!ralf ARPA: RALF@CS.CMU.EDU FIDO: Ralf Brown 1:129/53 BITnet: RALF%CS.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE AT&Tnet: (412)268-3053 (school) FAX: ask DISCLAIMER? Did | It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's I claim something?| what we know that ain't so. --Will Rogers
ESR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Ed Russell) (06/28/91)
In article <2Zo542w164w@birdsong>, larry@birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) says: >herpst@kims.kodak.com writes: > >> I've got to upgrade either PCTools or >> Norton Utilities? >> [other stuff deleted] > >I cannot talk about Norton, I just do not know. What I do know is >that PC Tools 7 is in very bad shape. ......... > [bug/problem descriptions deleted] First question is do you really "got to" upgrade? As a general practice, one is better off waiting a few months after a new release before going to it unless you *need* to for some reason. Let other people be on the bleeding edge of new releases. I use PCTools version 6.x and it is _now_ quite reliable except for a couple of little irritating bugs that CPS has never been able to fix. However, the worst that happens is that the order of my directories gets reversed spontaneously once in a while when I enter the disk compress program. CP Backup is very reliable and the other stuff is too. If you can get by with version 6, stay with it; it is fairly stable. I have also not upgraded my Norton from 4.5. I saw nothing in release 5 but prettification of the menus and I didn't like the way they combined functions. Besides, the Norton stuff is no longer done by Norton even thought it still has his name on it. Summary. Stick with a release that works for you and ignore the hype about new releases and discounts "if you buy before <date>" unless there is a NEED for something in the new release.