hartnegg@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Klaus Hartnegg) (06/20/91)
bxw@ccadfa.adfa.oz.au (Brad Willcott) writes: >As far as runtime protection is concerned, an installation program could >modify the 'exe' of the application it was installing, to embed the volume >serial number into it. This would negate problems with backing up the hard >disk system, and also with defragmenting the protected files. They would >not be 'position' sensitive. I hope all people implementing this in their programs know very well what they are doing. If this serial number is also written to the install disks then this could make it impossible to reinstall it on a garbled hard disk because once reformatted it is very likely to have a different volume serial number. Also I sometimes have to move programs from one partition to another to make room free for different things. This will also make such a program think it was a pirate copy. A protection scheme that does not at the same time cause a lot or problems for legal users has not yet been invented! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Klaus Hartnegg, Kleist-Str. 7, D-7835 Teningen, Germany | include standard Bitnet : hartnegg@dfrruf1 or hartnegg@cernvm | disclaimer here! Internet : hartnegg@ibm.ruf.uni-freiburg.de |
mmccorm@d.cs.okstate.edu (McCormick Martin) (06/21/91)
If you use a version of DOS which is earlier than 4.00, the serial number will be copied right along with the rest of the diskette.. If you want several disks with the same serial number, just boot your machine with DOS 3.2 or 3.3, for example and use the "DISKCOPY" program to do the job. Martin McCormick Amateur Radio WB5AGZ Oklahoma State University Computer Center Data Communication sGroup Stillwater, OK
egb@argosy.UUCP (Ed Bradford) (06/24/91)
I have just installed MS-DOS 5.0 and everything works find EXCEPT windows 3.0. Even it works find EXCEPT in standard mode: win /s Since PC-NFS doesn't work in enhanced mode, I am stuck. Anyone else out there have this problem? I got 627K of memory back using all the umb stuff and it all seems to work fine, except this little gotcha. Solutions would be appreciated. Either post to news or send mail to me directly. Thanks in advance egb@maspar.com
jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) (06/24/91)
egb@argosy.UUCP (Ed Bradford) writes: >I have just installed MS-DOS 5.0 and everything works find EXCEPT windows 3.0. >Even it works find EXCEPT in standard mode: > win /s >Since PC-NFS doesn't work in enhanced mode, I am stuck. Anyone else out there >have this problem? I got 627K of memory back using all the umb stuff and it >all seems to work fine, except this little gotcha. Solutions would be >appreciated. Either post to news or send mail to me directly. Any chance you're running EMM386 to get access to the UMB's? If so, there is a documented restriction (which Microsoft will hopefully fix someday) which says that if EMM386 is running then Windows standard mode will not work. Real and enhanced mode will work OK, but EMM386 and standard mode get into a fight over who controls protected mode. Standard mode Windows will abort during startup with an error complaining about some other program running in protected mode (I don't recall the exact error text). Joe Morris
furlong@vxs.mdcbbs.com (Nebula Software,) (06/24/91)
In article <1386@argosy.UUCP>, egb@argosy.UUCP (Ed Bradford) writes: > I have just installed MS-DOS 5.0 and everything works find EXCEPT windows 3.0. > Even it works find EXCEPT in standard mode: > win /s > Since PC-NFS doesn't work in enhanced mode, I am stuck. Anyone else out there > have this problem? I got 627K of memory back using all the umb stuff and it > all seems to work fine, except this little gotcha. Solutions would be > appreciated. Either post to news or send mail to me directly. Are you using EMS386.EXE in your config file? MS docs state that Windows Standard Mode will not run if you are using EMS386.EXE. No affiliation with the following: Bugless, BowWing, Nothrowup, HugeAirCrash, or LackHeed Aircraft Companies ---- Carey ---- Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, CA; Compu$erve 70531,2753; Prodigy TXST34A; uunet!tdocm.mdcbbs.com!furlong; furlong@tdocm.mdcbbs.com
johnk@Pacer.UUCP (johnk) (06/28/91)
Ed Bradford (egb@argosy.UUCP) writes:
Even it works find (sic) EXCEPT in standard mode:
^^^^^^^^
There is a conflict between Windows standard mode and HIMEM.SYS.
Apparently they fight over who controls the high memory. Don't know
of a solution, except to run in enhanced mode (or real mode if you
want the lobotomy).
Luck!
John