jagrogan@vax1.tcd.ie (10/15/90)
Can anyone out there tell me if it's possible (under Dos 3.3 or 4.01)
to format an 80Meg Hard Disk without having to partition it?
If not, then could I get away with a no more than 2 partitions or
do they all have to be 32Meg partitions and then one of whatever is
left over?
I have a Dell 210 with a 40Meg HD and want to put in a connor
80Meg HD. Would I need to get a new controller card for the new disk?
I don't know if the existing card HD is RLL, SCSI, ESDI or whatever.
Thanks,
John Grogan.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------ariel@seer.UUCP (Catherine Hampton) (10/17/90)
In article <7023.27199600@vax1.tcd.ie> jagrogan@vax1.tcd.ie writes: >Can anyone out there tell me if it's possible (under Dos 3.3 or 4.01) >to format an 80Meg Hard Disk without having to partition it? Yes, at least as I think you mean it. DOS actually uses the term partition in a way that formatting it as a single C: drive is also called partitioning. But you mean that you want to format your 80 meg hard disk as one 80 meg C: drive, rather than two or three virtual disks, right? If that's what you meant, just get DOS 4.01, run FDISK, and select the whole drive as a single large partition. Then format it. It's that simple. (Good news is fun!;> ) Cathy _________________________________________________________________ Catherine A. Hampton BITNET: hampton@reed.BITNET CIS: 71601,3130 Fidonet: Cathy H. @ 1:125/32 GEnie: C.HAMPTON3 Internet: hampton@reed.EDU / ariel@seer.COM
kmcvay@oneb (10/17/90)
jagrogan@vax1.tcd.ie writes: > Can anyone out there tell me if it's possible (under Dos 3.3 or 4.01) > to format an 80Meg Hard Disk without having to partition it? > If not, then could I get away with a no more than 2 partitions or > do they all have to be 32Meg partitions and then one of whatever is > left over? > I have a Dell 210 with a 40Meg HD and want to put in a connor > 80Meg HD. Would I need to get a new controller card for the new disk? > I don't know if the existing card HD is RLL, SCSI, ESDI or whatever. MS-DOS 4.01 permits you to use the entire disk as one partition, but I don't know what the size limit is off-hand. I have a 110-meg partition which, with one exception, has been trouble-free. The exception? Once I had >48MB on the disk, none of the optimizers available could handle the partition. With the release, however, of Golden Bow's VOPT v3.0, that problem was solved, and I can now maintain the disk efficiently on a daily basis The disk runs on a dos gateway, and contains 500 subdirectories and about 13,500 files (newsgroup articles)) I've been installing MS-DOS 4.01 for a year or so, and have always set up the disks (<150MB) with a single partition, although how you want to set things up is a subjective matter. Earlier versions of MS-DOS required special device drivers (DiskManager, etc.) to create partitions >32 megs, although I seem to recall 3.3 would permit you to do this via fdisk extended partitions...
ariel@seer.UUCP (Catherine Hampton) (10/21/90)
In article <eue7q1w163w@oneb> kmcvay@oneb writes: > Once I had >48MB on the >disk, none of the optimizers available could handle the partition. With the >release, however, of Golden Bow's VOPT v3.0, that problem was solved, and I >can now maintain the disk efficiently on a daily basis I've got a 104 meg hard disk formatted under DOS 4.01 in a single partition. At present over seventy megs is full of files. Neither Norton's Speeddisk nor Gazelle's Optune have ever had a problem on my disk. I wonder if there was something strange about your HD that confused them. Cathy _________________________________________________________________ Catherine A. Hampton BITNET: hampton@reed.BITNET CIS: 71601,3130 Fidonet: Cathy H. @ 1:125/32 GEnie: C.HAMPTON3 Internet: hampton@reed.EDU / ariel@seer.COM
kmcvay@oneb (10/22/90)
ariel@seer.UUCP (Catherine Hampton) writes: > I've got a 104 meg hard disk formatted under DOS 4.01 in a single partition. > At present over seventy megs is full of files. Neither Norton's Speeddisk > nor Gazelle's Optune have ever had a problem on my disk. I wonder if there > was something strange about your HD that confused them. > You may be right, Cathy - the system is a mail gateway, and carries from 11K to 16K files - perhaps it was the number of files, or the number of subdirectories which caused Norton SD to fail - whatever it was, the message from SD was always the same: Not Enough Memory - VOPT doesn't have that problem, nor will it thrash disks using DiskManager's dmdrvr.bin, which has been a real problem for folks using DM and SD in this neck of the woods. I _would_ like to find out if there are differences between your system, where SD works fine, and mine, where it doesn't - there must be some more folks out there with experience running (or trying to) SD on >48MB partitions, and it would be useful to hear from them... How many directories exist on your partition? (Mine runs about 460, and SD still can't deal with the partition).
kdq@demott.COM (Kevin D. Quitt) (10/23/90)
>In article <eue7q1w163w@oneb> kmcvay@oneb writes: >>with release of Golden Bow's VOPT v3.0, that problem was solved, and I How can I contact Golden Bow? -- _ Kevin D. Quitt demott!kdq kdq@demott.com DeMott Electronics Co. 14707 Keswick St. Van Nuys, CA 91405-1266 VOICE (818) 988-4975 FAX (818) 997-1190 MODEM (818) 997-4496 PEP last 96.37% of all statistics are made up.
kmcvay@onebdos.UUCP (Ken McVay) (10/23/90)
> >In article <eue7q1w163w@oneb> kmcvay@oneb writes: > >>with release of Golden Bow's VOPT v3.0, that problem was solved, and I > > How can I contact Golden Bow? Golden Bow Systems Box 3039 San Diego, California 92163 (619) 483-0901 --- * Origin: 1B Systems Management Limited, Nanaimo, British Columbia (89:681/1) -- Ken McVay, via IMEx node 89:681/1 (onebdos.UUCP) Nanaimo, B.C. Internet: kmcvay@oneb.UUCP UUCP: uunet!van-bc!oneb!kmcvay