izslc19@discg1.UUCP (james cook) (11/10/90)
Is there a way I can hide files on my directory so that someone else could not see them if they did a DIR. I want to put some games on my directory, but my boss uses my PC on occassion and looks at files. Is there a way these game files would be invisible to him if he did a DIR. ( Some sort or utility or command that I would execute that would make files invisible if I left my workstation for a period of time). Does such a command or utility exist. Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- -------------------------------------------- Jim Cook (215) 687-0607 AV 442-0607 izslc19@discg1.UUCP Philadelphia, PA
mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle) (11/11/90)
ATTRIB.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Utility to alter file attributes
ATTRIBCR.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Set file attributes util by Craig Milo Rogers
CA13.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Enhanced change attribute command, subdirs too
CHATT.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Change File Attributes - full screen - easy
CHMOD2.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Change file attributes, like Unix's 'chmod'
CHNGFIL.ASM PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Change file attribute, read-only/hidden/system
FILEATTR.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Set file attributes, hide, R/O, ARCH
PATTR.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Patriquins File Attribute toggler utility
SATTRIB.ZIP PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Modify all attributes inc hidden, sys & dirs
SFA.ARC PD1:<MSDOS.DIRUTL> Menu-driven file attribute setter
These are all available at simtel20.army.mil (26.2.0.74) in the directory
listed above (PD1:<MSDOS.xxxxx> ) or at wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4)
in mirrors/msdos/xxxxx.
If anyone knows of any other mirrored archives of Simtel20, please let me
know and I'll add them to this generic response.
Thanks.
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mcastle@cs.umr.edu | Love does not exist anymore. croft@mwk.uucp (KENN CROFT, EXT. 4483) (11/12/90)
In article <5001@discg1.UUCP>, izslc19@discg1.UUCP (james cook) writes: > Is there a way I can hide files on my directory so that someone else > could not see them if they did a DIR. I want to put some games on > my directory, but my boss uses my PC on occassion and looks at files. > Is there a way these game files would be invisible to him if he did > a DIR. ( Some sort or utility or command that I would execute that > would make files invisible if I left my workstation for a period of > time). Does such a command or utility exist. Any comments will be > greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > > -- > -------------------------------------------- > Jim Cook (215) 687-0607 AV 442-0607 > izslc19@discg1.UUCP > Philadelphia, PA Jim, Rather than hiding files, you might try creating a directory named with ASCII characters 255. I'm guessing that most people will not notice its existence. To do this, use the DOS "md" command and, instead of typing normal alphanumerics for the name, hold down the alt key while typing 255 (on mine I HAVE to use the numeric keypad numerals, I don't know how general that rule is) then repeat the ASCII 255 if desired. This method is not so secure, but it always struck me as rather convenient. It will show as a subdirectory, but the name will be blank and hard to notice. The advantage to this is that once you get into the directory, you don't have to worry about unhiding any files. There are probably more elegant solutions, but it was the first thing that came to mind. Regards, Kenn Croft
drack@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Dave Rackley) (11/12/90)
Is your boss really that stupid? :-0 :-) Try ATTR.COM, it's found in most archives. -- DISCLAIMER? I don't know anything 'bout any ol' disclaimer! +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | David Rackley | | | Applied Research Laboratories | Remember, you can tuna fish, | | The University of Texas | But you can't tuna piano! | | Austin, TX. 78758 | | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+
Greg.Smith@bohemia.UUCP (Greg Smith) (11/12/90)
To: izslc19@discg1.UUCP (james cook)
jc> Is there a way I can hide files on my directory so that someone else
jc> could not see them if they did a DIR. I want to put some
With Dos, all files have attributes. Archive,ReadOnly,System, and HIDDEN!
What you are looking to do is to turn the Hidden attribute on for these
files, Dos comes with a utility called Attrib (or something like that).
This command would hide MrGame.Exe:
Attrib -H MrGame.Exe
See your dos manual for more info. If that doesn't work, I can give you
some Pascal source for Hiding files. Also, norton utilities and 4dos have
enhanced versions of Attrib.
Greg
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You can also use PC Tool to hide the file and if you have version 6.0 you can
even hide the directory that your games are in from DIR. You can still do a
change dir to get to files and execute just like before.
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| c/o DRD Corporation (918)743-3013tmottonen@cc.helsinki.fi (11/13/90)
In article <5001@discg1.UUCP>, izslc19@discg1.UUCP (james cook) writes: > Is there a way I can hide files on my directory so that someone else > could not see them if they did a DIR. I want to put some games on > my directory, but my boss uses my PC on occassion and looks at files. It would be easiest if you'd make a directory (\GAMES?), put all your games under it and then hide the directory using ATTR.COM (ATTR +h C:\GAMES). -- _________ Teemu Mottonen | | internet: tmottonen@cc.helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki | | bitnet: TMOTTONEN@FINUH Dept.of Computer Science |_________| decnet: HYLK::TMOTTONEN
rusbara2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) (11/14/90)
In article <4007.27401017@cc.helsinki.fi> tmottonen@cc.helsinki.fi writes: > It would be easiest if you'd make a directory (\GAMES?), put > all your games under it and then hide the directory using > ATTR.COM (ATTR +h C:\GAMES). Whoa! What DOS are _you_ running? I wish mine could do that! ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Bob Rusbasan | This space unintentionally left blank. | | bob@en.ecn.purdue.edu | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------
lsalomo@hubcap.clemson.edu (lsalomo) (11/14/90)
From article <5085@sage.cc.purdue.edu>, by rusbara2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan): > In article <4007.27401017@cc.helsinki.fi> tmottonen@cc.helsinki.fi writes: >> It would be easiest if you'd make a directory (\GAMES?), put >> all your games under it and then hide the directory using >> ATTR.COM (ATTR +h C:\GAMES). > > Whoa! What DOS are _you_ running? I wish mine could do that! ;-) If ATTR +h C:\GAMES doesn't work, you can always use NU to manually change the attribute bit of the directory entry. Cheers, Q - the "Q"uestor for knowledge (, a degree, etc.) lsalomo@hubcap.clemson.edu ibmman@clemson.clemson.edu ============================================================================= "Gee Wally, I think there's something wrong with the Beaver." =============================================================================
tcs@router.jhuapl.edu (11/15/90)
In article <5085@sage.cc.purdue.edu>, rusbara2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes: >In article <4007.27401017@cc.helsinki.fi> tmottonen@cc.helsinki.fi writes: >> It would be easiest if you'd make a directory (\GAMES?), put >> all your games under it and then hide the directory using >> ATTR.COM (ATTR +h C:\GAMES). > >Whoa! What DOS are _you_ running? I wish mine could do that! ;-) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >| Bob Rusbasan | This space unintentionally left blank. | >| bob@en.ecn.purdue.edu | | >---------------------------------------------------------------------- It's possible, all you need is something that can hide directories. I use Norton's when I need to hide a directory (which I don't have to do very often). ATTR from PC Magazine (I think) can hide directories. Carl Schelin tcs@router.jhuapl.edu
roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) (11/15/90)
rusbara2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes: > In article <4007.27401017@cc.helsinki.fi> tmottonen@cc.helsinki.fi writes: > > It would be easiest if you'd make a directory (\GAMES?), put > > all your games under it and then hide the directory using > > ATTR.COM (ATTR +h C:\GAMES). > > Whoa! What DOS are _you_ running? I wish mine could do that! ;-) Hmmm.... I think it's in the command processor. I run 4dos, and attrib /d +h dirname works just fine. (just tried it, to be sure) -- Roy M. Silvernail |+| roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu |+| #define opinions ALL_MINE; main(){float x=1;x=x/50;printf("It's only $%.2f, but it's my $%.2f!\n",x,x);} "This is cyberspace." -- Peter da Silva :--: "...and I like it here!" -- me
phys169@canterbury.ac.nz (11/16/90)
In article <5001@discg1.UUCP>, izslc19@discg1.UUCP (james cook) writes: > Is there a way I can hide files on my directory so that someone else > could not see them if they did a DIR. I want to put some games on > my directory, but my boss uses my PC on occassion and looks at files. > Is there a way these game files would be invisible to him if he did > a DIR? (1) Yes, there are lots of public domain programs to hide files. (2) There is even an "ATTRIB" supplied with DOS (but most versions don't set the hidden attribute) (3) You might be able to put the executables in a directory with a name made up of ALT-255 characters (if you don't know how to do this don't worry, it's not a very good idea anyway) (4) (best suggestion yet) Don't keep the games a secret from your boss. As a general rule, people bringing games disks along and running them on PC's doing important work can introduce viruses and other nasties. If you don't know enough about DOS to hide a file, you probably don't know enough to avoid viruses. (Okay, anybody can bring a virus onto a computer, but if one is discovered, your games files are going to be found when somebody thoroughly scans the computer, and you might be shot at dawn then!) Mark Aitchison.
whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Ben Feen) (11/17/90)
Is the "hold down ALT and type on the numeric keypad" trick mentioned in the MS-DOS users manual???? -- whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM | I don't know, who's at DDSW1? | whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM! I asked YOU who's at DDSW1! Ok, there's a guy at DDSW1, right? | Right! Who? | Exactly! | What? | No, he's at lll-winken. | Where? | No, What! | I don't know! | He's at gargoyle. | Who? | No, he's at DDSW1.MCS.COM!
userAKDU@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (Al Dunbar) (11/19/90)
In article <6359@mwk.uucp>, croft@mwk.uucp (KENN CROFT, EXT. 4483) writes: >In article <5001@discg1.UUCP>, izslc19@discg1.UUCP (james cook) writes: >> Is there a way I can hide files on my directory so that someone else <<<deletions>>> > >Rather than hiding files, you might try creating a directory named with ASCII >characters 255. I'm guessing that most people will not notice its existence. You can also set the "HIDE" bit on the directory entry for this directory. Won't "the boss" become suspicious when he sees something wierd on your PC? Also, if he knows anything about utilities such as PCTOOLS, he'll discover almost anything you try to hide. Wouldn't you be better off by not risking your job by stealing time your boss has paid for? -------------------+------------------------------------------- Al Dunbar | Edmonton, Alberta | "this mind left intentionally blank" CANADA | - Manuel Writer -------------------+-------------------------------------------
silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver) (11/19/90)
In article <1990Nov17.001950.21770@ddsw1.MCS.COM> whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Ben Feen) writes:
$Is the "hold down ALT and type on the numeric keypad" trick mentioned in the
$MS-DOS users manual????
I don't believe so, and it shouldn't be. It's not a feature of MS-DOS,
after all, but rather of the firmware of the IBM PC.
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Silver: Ever Searching for SNTF |i need a grilf | upon thousands of dollarssci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (mr w.j. ho) (11/19/90)
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berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Eric Berggren) (11/20/90)
whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Ben Feen) writes: >Is the "hold down ALT and type on the numeric keypad" trick mentioned in the >MS-DOS users manual???? MS-DOS 4.01 doesn't seem to care for that very much from the command- line. To hide a file, write a couple of simple utilities to create and view files and/or directories that have the character 127 as the first character of the name. ============================================================================== "Round and round the while() loop goes; Whether it stops," Turing says, "nobody knows."
kmcvay@oneb (11/22/90)
berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Eric Berggren) writes: > whos@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Ben Feen) writes: > > >Is the "hold down ALT and type on the numeric keypad" trick mentioned in the > >MS-DOS users manual???? > > MS-DOS 4.01 doesn't seem to care for that very much from the command- > line. > To hide a file, write a couple of simple utilities to create and view > files and/or directories that have the character 127 as the first character I used ALT-255 to create hidden directories on MS-DOS 4.01 systems with success for about a year now. The directories are accessible from the command line or from batch files; I use them to provide a secure haven for a communcations front-end (FrontDoor 1.99/2.0) system files, to prevent inadvertant fiddling which might bring the (automated) mail system down. The software recognizes it (FrontDoor) and MS-DOS 4.01 does as well. What sort of problems have you experienced using ALT-255 with 4.01?
zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) (11/23/90)
In article <1990Nov19.012745.17526@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (mr w.j. ho) writes: >What about hiding the directory? Just by call DOS function FindFirst and FindNext, I can still see it. This time it's even worse. Because after I find the hidden directory, I'll discover all the files hidden in this directory. PC does not provide real security doing this kind of things. If your PC is connected to a network, try to hidden your file in your network account.
qingzhou@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Qing Zhou) (11/27/90)
This reminds me of a very nice software called PCLock my friend got. With it one can conveniently hide files and directories, this sort of things. The most impressive part is that it can rebuilt any .EXE and .COM file so that you can run it only after you enter the correct password you preset. It's $9.99, I believe. I got the address from my friend for you guys: Creative Software, POB 2005, W Lafayette, IN 47906.
qingzhou@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Qing Zhou) (11/27/90)
This reminds me of a very nice software called PCLock my friend got. With it one can conveniently hide files and directories, this sort of things. The most impressive part is that it can rebuilt any .EXE and .COM file so that you can run it only after you enter the correct password you preset. It's $9.99, I believe. I got the address from my friend for you guys: Creative Software, POB 2005, W Lafayette, IN 47906.
MJLEPPER@MTUS5.BITNET (12/13/90)
To make a file hidden with MS-DOS, just change the attribute bit in the direc tory table. It is easyest to use a utility such as Norton or such to do this.
bondi@dri.com (Bob Bondi) (12/14/90)
There is a standard option in the DRDOS 5.0 operating system that has password abilities, also. When used the file may not be seen when doing a DIR command. This works great on entire directories, also! Of course, this is only one of the many new ideas DRDOS 5.0 has. You should investigate how DRDOS 5.0 can improve the performance for your system(s).