poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) (12/05/90)
I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but
if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it
completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit
the line.
A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to
complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen.
This allows the user to enter more characters to further identify it.
Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com
Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen
1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276
San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254komarimf@clutx.clarkson.edu (Mark Komarinski,,,) (12/05/90)
From article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com>, by poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger): > I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but > if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it > completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit > the line. My 4dos (3.01?) will give you a different file for each press of F9, *but* if you move the cursor away from the filename (i.e. to the right) then bring the cursor back to the name, it won't find the next file. Mark Komarinski - take yer pick - komarimf@clutx.clarkson.edu .bitnet "Nothing can stop him. Not even common sense." 7 out of 10 people make up 70% of the population.
sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis) (12/05/90)
In article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. > On my 4DOS, all I have to do is keep hitting the file-complete key until the file I meant shows up. 4DOS just cycles through all possible files that are candidates as F9 is repeated. It's not UNIXish but it seems to work out nicely in most cases. _____________________________________________________________________________ Bob Davis, UofALA'66 \\ INTERNET: sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com | _ _ | Harris Corporation, ESS \\ UUCP: ...!uunet!x102a!trantor!sonny |_| |_| | | Advanced Technology Dept.\\ AETHER: K4VNO |==============|_/\/\/\|_| PO Box 37, MS 3A/1912 \\ VOICE: (407) 727-5886 | I SPEAK ONLY | |_| |_| | Melbourne, FL 32902 \\ FAX: (407) 729-2537 | FOR MYSELF. |_________|
derek@sun4dts.dts.ine.philips.nl (derek) (12/05/90)
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. Not true!!! If you don't move the cursor, just can just press F9 again to get the next match. If you are too enthusiastic, press F8 to back up. >A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to >complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen. >This allows the user to enter more characters to further identify it. Only in Cshell, which has so many bugs I despise it. Korn shell is almost workable. You can almost get it to work like 4dos, which is FAR superior to Unix. (I hate Unix. Sunview on a Sparc is almost livable with.) Note: no smilies! >Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com >Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen >1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 >San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254 Best Regards, Derek Carr DEREK@DTS.INE.PHILIPS.NL Philips I&E TQV-5 Eindhoven, The Netherlands Standard Disclaimers apply.
sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis) (12/06/90)
In article <17817@shlump.nac.dec.com> wales@lrcsnl.enet.dec.com (David Wales) writes: >poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes... > >>I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >>if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >>completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >>the line. >> [DELETIONS] >What you say is true but you will find that if you press F9 again the next file >matching the criteria you have entered will be shown. You can cycle through as >many files as you like but you can't go back. If you find that the file you ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [DELETIONS] PRESS F10 AND YOU CAN GO BACK. _____________________________________________________________________________ Bob Davis, UofALA'66 \\ INTERNET: sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com | _ _ | Harris Corporation, ESS \\ UUCP: ...!uunet!x102a!trantor!sonny |_| |_| | | Advanced Technology Dept.\\ AETHER: K4VNO |==============|_/\/\/\|_| PO Box 37, MS 3A/1912 \\ VOICE: (407) 727-5886 | I SPEAK ONLY | |_| |_| | Melbourne, FL 32902 \\ FAX: (407) 729-2537 | FOR MYSELF. |_________|
wales@lrcsnl.enet.dec.com (David Wales) (12/06/90)
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes... >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. > >A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to >complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen. >This allows the user to enter more characters to further identify it. What you say is true but you will find that if you press F9 again the next file matching the criteria you have entered will be shown. You can cycle through as many files as you like but you can't go back. If you find that the file you really wanted was, let's say, the previous one then you will have to re-enter the command. I think this is probably better than the UNIX method you describe because if you have 10 files with only the last letter different then you will have to type the whole name. With 4DOS you can type the first couple and press F9 a few times to get the right file. Try it you'll like it! -- ================================================================================ | David Wales (VK2KWD) Sydney, Australia | Internet: wales@lrcsnl.enet.dec.com | | | FIDOnet: 3:712/517 (My Other Half) | | "Only 37 years 'till retirement!" | UUCP: decwrl!lrcsnl.enet!wales | | | | | Opinions expressed are mine and | Voice: (61) 2 457-8734 (H) | | mine only! | (61) 2 561-7334 (W) | ================================================================================
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) (12/06/90)
In article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. > >A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to >complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen. >This allows the user to enter more characters to further identify it. > I have gotten enough mail that continually hitting F9 cycles through all choices. Please stop sending mail. I will RTFM next time!!! Thanks, Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen 1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254
toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (12/06/90)
In article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must >re-edit the line. Not true. Just hit F9 again and it will replace the string with the next match. Tom Almy toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com Standard Disclaimers Apply
roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) (12/06/90)
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: > I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but > if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it > completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-ed > the line. Ross, if the first file isn't the one you want, just hit F9 again, and 4dos will replace the current name with the next match. F10 will continue placing matching names on the command line, and F8 backs up in the list. (if one or more names has been selected, F8 and F9 move the current-position filename through the list of matches) -- Roy M. Silvernail |+| roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu |+| #define opinions ALL_MINE; main(){float x=1;x=x/50;printf("It's only $%.2f, but it's my $%.2f!\n",x,x);} "This is cyberspace." -- Peter da Silva :--: "...and I like it here!" -- me
belt@freyr.pttrnl.nl (Evert van de Belt) (12/06/90)
poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. This is not completely true. There is no need to reedit. By pressing (F9) again, the next matching filename will appear. This way, you can walk true the filenames by just pressing (F9). The string typed only works as a filter. >A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to >complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen. >This allows the user to enter more characters to further identify it. I don't see that as a better behaviour. In the first place, you need to know the next character. In the second place, you have to look for that character on the keyboard (for the less fortunate typers, this is still tedious.) In 4DOS, you only have to use the (F9) key. I like 4DOS better than UNIX. Best wishes, Evert van de Belt E_vdBelt@pttrnl.nl
hcd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Hugh Davis) (12/06/90)
In <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. You dont have to re-edit. Just press F9 again and it will match the next file, and so on till you find the correct file. I think I prefer this to the unix version. -- H.C.Davis@uk.ac.soton.ecs Hugh Davis Tel: +44 703 595000 X3669 Dept of Electronics and Computer Science Fax: +44 703 593045 University of Southampton Telex: 47661 SOTONU G Southampton SO9 5NH England
hollen@megatek (Dion Hollenbeck) (12/07/90)
In article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: > > I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but > if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it > completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, > you must re-edit the line. Since I am not at home, I cannot look at the documentation, but the way I use 4DOS completion is the following. F9 pressed once, completes the first match pressed again, gets the next match. keep pressing until the one you want is visible F8 once you have a match, get the PREVIOUS match (if you go past what you really wanted, you can back up) F10 once you have a match, leave that match, move over a space and put up the next match. The cursor is left at the second field and F9, F8 can be used to walk through names for the second field. each subsequent press of F10 will move over to the next field and start you all over again -- Dion Hollenbeck (619) 455-5590 x2814 Megatek Corporation, 9645 Scranton Road, San Diego, CA 92121 uunet!megatek!hollen or hollen@megatek.uucp
cdavis@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Christopher L. Davis) (12/08/90)
In <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. Actually, just repress the <F9> key and it will complete the next filename that matches your prefix input. If you don't specify any prefix then 4DOS will rotate through all directory and file names available - then beep when it comes to the end of all names. -- Talk to you soon, Yours: Chris ---
sweh@tharr.UUCP (Stephen Harris) (12/10/90)
In article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger) writes: >I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must re-edit >the line. I think you'll find that F9 shows the first match, then pressing F9 again will remove that and replace it with the second match. Pressing it again will show the third match etc. If, instead, you press F10 after finding a match it will enter a SPACE and then display the second match as a second parameter (not a good description) allowing you to find MATCH.OBJ MATCH.BAK (for example) but not MATCH.C and MATCH.EXE by judicious use of these keys (maybe F9 F10 F9, depending on the order they are stored in the directory). > >A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to >complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen. I too prefer this method, but I suppose its because its the one I am more used to :-) >Russ Poffenberger DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com >Schlumberger Technologies UUCP: {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen >1601 Technology Drive CIS: 72401,276 >San Jose, Ca. 95110 (408)437-5254 -- Stephen Harris Disclaimer: me have an opinion? | Email: ..!ukc!axion!tharr!sweh What an idea! | sweh%tharr.uucp@uk.co.bt.axion Wanted: humour transplant | tharr!sweh@uk.ac.ukc <-- tharr *free* public access to Usenet in the UK 0234 261804 -->
hd7x@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Sanjay Aiyagari) (12/14/90)
In article <1492@tharr.UUCP>, sweh@tharr.UUCP (Stephen Harris) writes: > In article <1990Dec4.213015.258@sj.ate.slb.com> poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ > Poffenberger) writes: >>I have a minor gripe with 4dos. The file completion feature is nice (F9), but >>if more than one file matches the string you are trying to complete, it >>completes to one of the files. If that isn't the one you want, you must >>re-edit the line. >> >>A better behavior, like used on most UNIX shells with this feature, is to >>complete up to the first non-common character and beep, or flash the screen. > > I too prefer this method, but I suppose its because its the one I am more > used to :-) PC Magazine's CMDEDIT utility will complete up to the first non-common character when you press the Tab key. I like it very much. Sanjay Aiyagari (hd7x@vax5.cit.cornell.edu)