kirk@eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Kirk) (02/08/91)
The generic first time post message follows.. Gee.. Ahh.. This is my first post... I have seen this but has it really been answerd? I am looking for an EMM driver for a 286. I need to be able to put drivers above the 640k. I know of Quarterdecks stuff put how about PD? Anybody ever heard of such a thing? capt.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those who say it can't be done will eat the dust of those doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim "Capt." Kirk INTERNET : kirk@eecs.wsu.edu Elect. Eng. & Comp. Sci. UUCP : ...uunet!eecs.wsu.edu!kirk Wash. State University BITNET : kirkj@wsuvm1 Pullman WA 99164-2752 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh...I have no response to that! --Meg Ryan in Joe vs. the Volcano -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Those who say it can't be done will eat the dust of those doing it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim "Capt." Kirk INTERNET : kirk@eecs.wsu.edu
mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle {Nexus}) (02/08/91)
Only a 386 can remap exTENded memory to exPANded using software only. If you
have a 286, you need to have an exPANded memory board, then you can use programs
that will add to the available exPANded memory by remapping exTENded memory.
There is a program on simtel20, et al., called HRAM1.ZIP, which is supposed to
be a QRAM clone. This may help you.
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In article <1991Feb07.171432.21409@eecs.wsu.edu> kirk@eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Kirk) writes: > > I have seen this but has it really been answerd? I am looking for > an EMM driver for a 286. I need to be able to put drivers above > the 640k. I know of Quarterdecks stuff put how about PD? Anybody > ever heard of such a thing? > Well, you are probably gonna be disappointed. Yes there is software abundant to do what you want, but NO, you probably do not have the correct hardware to do it. On 386 machines, hardware XMS support is built in because of the chip architecture. The only way you can get this on a 286 is by having the correct NEAT CHIPSET which supports this, or by purchasing an INTEL ABOVEBOARD or similar hardware implementation of XMS. On commercial product to recomment is TURBO-EMS, and another is QRAM (by QEMM folks). They will both relocate your drivers and TSR's up in high memory (IF YOU HAVE THE HARDWARE!!!) -- ----- Dion Hollenbeck (619) 455-5590 x2814 Megatek Corporation, 9645 Scranton Road, San Diego, CA 92121 uunet!megatek!hollen or hollen@megatek.uucp
liberato@dri.com (Jimmy Liberato) (02/16/91)
mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle {Nexus}) writes: >Only a 386 can remap exTENded memory to exPANded using software only. This is not true at all. There are several programs that will technically allow you to emulate expanded memory with extended memory on a 286. They are commonly (and pejorativley) called "limulators." Due to the innate inefficiencies of the 286 in switching in and out of protected mode and the large size of the executables they are not of much real usefulness. >If you have a 286, you need to have an exPANded memory board, More precisely, SHOULD have if expanded memory is required... >then you can use programs that will add to the available exPANded memory >by remapping exTENded memory. This makes no sense. If you have true expanded memory at the hardware level why would you want to emulate it? If you are talking about QRAM, that is not what it does at all. It uses the enhanced page frame mapping abilities of LIM 4.0 EMS boards and older Rampage EEMS boards to include large areas of the upper memory addresses that are unused. The end result is analogous to what happens when using a memory manager like QEMM on a 386 but you are using expanded memory only. The one caveat here, and Quarterdeck should emphasize this more, is that if your EMS board is more than two years old it is most likely an EMS 3.2 level board and will not handle any alternate page mapping even if it claims to be "LIM 4.0 EMS" (at the software driver level). -- Jimmy Liberato liberato@dri.com ...uunet!drivax!liberato