sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) (06/13/91)
What does the setup procedure (install) for msdos 5.0 do precisely that makes it different from the old way of format, sys, and copying the dos files. Does it write to the install disk also ?
yev_g@athena.mit.edu (Yevgeny Gurevich) (06/13/91)
In article <1991Jun13.062855.16838@beach.csulb.edu> sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes: > > What does the setup procedure (install) for msdos 5.0 do precisely >that makes it different from the old way of format, sys, and copying >the dos files. Does it write to the install disk also ? Unlike previous install disks, none of the disks that come with DOS 5.0 are bootable. This makes it easy for MSoft to demand that DOS be already installed - if you didn't have DOS already, you wouldn't be able to use the disks. The disks are write-protected and the install program uncompresses the DOS files onto your disk using the expand.exe program first encountered in Windows 3.0. You will need to have at least one disk for the uninstall data that DOS 5.0 requires that you make (I used a 1.2 meg 5.25"). IMPORTANT - this disk (uninstall) MUST be in A: The install program will NOT let you change source drives as installs in Win 3 did, for instance. What is interesting is that my install disks wwere in B: since I bought 3.5" media and can't switch my A and B drives (CMOS setup doesn't affect them for some reason and my only recourse is ASSIGN). DOS installed fine from B even though the booklet suggested that everything must be in A. Go figure. I experimented some more with Himem + EMM386.EXE combination and determined that the DOS 5.0 + QEMM is much better for memory management. I get the max ram and still have the full use of Extended AND Expanded memory. I save about 11K using QEMM. Still DOSSING away, Yev [===============================================================] [ Yevgeny Gurevich ___/~\____/~\_/~~~~\__/~\______/~\_ ] [ 500 Memorial Drive |____/~\__/~\__/~\______/~\____/~\__| ] [ Cambridge, Mass. 02139 |_____/~\/~\___/~~~\_____/~\__/~\___| ] [ ________________________|______/~~\____/~\________/~\/~\____| ] [ yev_g@athena.mit.edu |______/~~\____/~~~~\______/~~\_____| ] [===============================================================]
ins845b@monu4.cc.monash.edu.au (mr k.l. lentin) (06/14/91)
In article <1991Jun13.132007.21277@athena.mit.edu> yev_g@athena.mit.edu (Yevgeny Gurevich) writes: >drives as installs in Win 3 did, for instance. What is interesting is that >my install disks wwere in B: since I bought 3.5" media and can't switch >my A and B drives (CMOS setup doesn't affect them for some reason and my >only recourse is ASSIGN). DOS installed fine from B even though the booklet >suggested that everything must be in A. Go figure. The CMOS setup just tells the machine what kind of drive each is. It doesnt say to the machine..."call the 5.25 b:" it says "b: is a 5.25" To switch them around open your machine and swap them physically and rearrange the cables. Only other option is assign as you have discovered. -- -----------------------------------------+---------------------------------- |/ (ins845b@monu4.cc.monash.edu.au) | This space for rent. |\evin (ins845b@monu3.cc.monash.edu.au) | All reasonable offers accepted -----------------------------------------+---------------------------------
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) (06/26/91)
In article <1991Jun13.062855.16838@beach.csulb.edu> sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes: | | What does the setup procedure (install) for msdos 5.0 do precisely | that makes it different from the old way of format, sys, and copying | the dos files. Does it write to the install disk also ? Makes an uninstall package so you can back out if you decide you must. I have *never* heard of anyone trying it, however. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) GE Corp R&D Center, Information Systems Operation, tech support group Moderator comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 386-users digest.
tiok_sr@tac.fi (Seppo Routimo) (06/27/91)
In article <3479@crdos1.crd.ge.COM>, davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: > I have *never* heard of anyone trying it, however. > -- I tried, and it worked just fine. SR
kevin@math.lsa.umich.edu (Kevin Coombes) (06/28/91)
In article <3479@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes: >In article <1991Jun13.062855.16838@beach.csulb.edu> sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes: >| >| What does the setup procedure (install) for msdos 5.0 do precisely >| that makes it different from the old way of format, sys, and copying >| the dos files. Does it write to the install disk also ? > > Makes an uninstall package so you can back out if you decide you must. >I have *never* heard of anyone trying it, however. >-- >bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) > GE Corp R&D Center, Information Systems Operation, tech support group > Moderator comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 386-users digest. I tried it; it works quite nicely. (One of the TSRs in my autoexec.bat turned out to be very sensitive to where in the sequence it got loaded, and crashed the machine when setup tried to boot. Before I could make a bootable floppy, of course. Uninstall was *very* useful.) Kevin