[net.ham-radio] Telephone ring detector

philb@orca.UUCP (Phil Biehl) (03/18/86)

	I'm in the process of adding telephone capabilities (autopatch)
	to the UHF ham repeater I am working on. I would like to be
	able to detect the ringing current produced by an incoming
	call. What I need is a CMOS compatible signal indicating that
	ringing current is present on the drop. That is, a pulse for
	every ring burst.

	I would like to have as much isolation from the drop as possible
	and have been considering optoisolators to connect the logic to
	the line. 

	I would like to get a consensus on your favortie ring current 
	detector. Please mail or post responses. Thanks much.

	Phil Biehl
	(503) 685-2122
	Tektronix Inc., Wilsonville OR

	tektronix!orca!philb

kludge@gitpyr.UUCP (Scott Dorsey) (03/21/86)

In article <2032@orca.UUCP> philb@orca.UUCP (Phil Biehl) writes:
>
>	I'm in the process of adding telephone capabilities (autopatch)
>	to the UHF ham repeater I am working on. I would like to be
>	able to detect the ringing current produced by an incoming
>	call. What I need is a CMOS compatible signal indicating that
>	ringing current is present on the drop. That is, a pulse for
>	every ring burst.

  My suggestion is one of the neon optoisolators on the market.  Just
hook one end to the phone line and the other one to a 741 op amp.  Or,
taping an NE-2 bulb to a CDS cell will probably work, although I wouldn't
bet on reliability.  I know that HP makes some neon optoisolators, but
you can probably get them cheaper...


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larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (03/22/86)

In article <2032@orca.UUCP>, philb@orca.UUCP (Phil Biehl) writes:
> 	I'm in the process of adding telephone capabilities (autopatch)
> 	to the UHF ham repeater I am working on. I would like to be
> 	able to detect the ringing current produced by an incoming
> 	call. What I need is a CMOS compatible signal indicating that
> 	ringing current is present on the drop. That is, a pulse for
> 	every ring burst.
> 	I would like to have as much isolation from the drop as possible
> 	and have been considering optoisolators to connect the logic to
> 	the line. 

	A simple ring detector can be made from a GE H11AA1 optoisolator,
which is a dual LED device which detects AC. Connect the LED input in series
with a 3.9 K resistor and a 0.68 uF capacitor, and then across tip and ring
of the telephone line.  The optoisolator output is a transistor; overall
sensitivity can be varied by using a resistor between the base and emitter.
Some integration should also be done to minimize dialing transients from
being detected; this can be done with a capacitor across the base and emitter.
For CMOS use, the emitter can be at Vss to sink a logic input using the
collector.

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