heiser@sud509.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser - Unix Sys Admin) (08/12/90)
On 25-Jul-90, Eric Zamost wrote: (something to the effect of having
a group purchase deal on 320meg drives).
The drive listed is a CDC-Imprimis Wren IV, for a group-purchase
price of $950.
Did anyone here go for that deal?
Is that drive any good?
Thanks, I'd like to know how that CDC-Imprimis drive is. The
Seagate association bothers me a bit...
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Other: heiser@world.std.com (Public Access Unix)jearly@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (John Early) (08/12/90)
In article <2071@sud509.ed.ray.com> heiser@sud509.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser - Unix Sys Admin) writes: > On 25-Jul-90, Eric Zamost wrote: (something to the effect of having > a group purchase deal on 320meg drives). > The drive listed is a CDC-Imprimis Wren IV, for a group-purchase > price of $950. > Did anyone here go for that deal? > Is that drive any good? > Thanks, I'd like to know how that CDC-Imprimis drive is. The > Seagate association bothers me a bit... > -- > Bill Heiser > Work: heiser@tdw201.ed.ray.com > {decuac,necntc,uunet}!rayssd!tdw201!heiser > Home: Bill.Heiser@f240.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Fidonet 1:322/240) > The Think_Tank BBS (508)655-3848 1200/2400/9600-HST > Other: 75106.2332@compuserve.com > Other: heiser@world.std.com (Public Access Unix) ^^^^^ what does this mean? While we're talking about drives, I saw the following "good" drive prices: Maxtor EXT-4380 (335MB, 28ms, 10ESDI) $950 Maxtor 8380E (335MB, 14.5ms, 15ESDI) $1195 MiniScribe 9380E (335MB, 16ms, 10ESDI) $895 Since I don't know if I should post the company's name/##, I won't, but I will be happy to mail it to you if you are interseted. (I mention these prices simply because I'm buying the Maxtor 8380E and saw the previous post) John. ---------------------------------------- John Early | jearly@lehi3b15.csee.lehigh.edu | I was just a child then; JPE1@Lehigh.Bitnet | now I'm only a man. [pf] LUJPE@VAX1.cc.lehigh.edu |
kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) (08/14/90)
>> CDC-Imprimis Wren IV $950 > >While we're talking about drives, I saw the following "good" drive prices: >Maxtor EXT-4380 (335MB, 28ms, 10ESDI) $950 >Maxtor 8380E (335MB, 14.5ms, 15ESDI) $1195 >MiniScribe 9380E (335MB, 16ms, 10ESDI) $895 Can any of these hard drives be used with MS-DOS/IBM PC-DOS? If so, which ones? >-----
ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) (08/19/90)
kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: > >> CDC-Imprimis Wren IV $950 > > > >While we're talking about drives, I saw the following "good" drive prices: > >Maxtor EXT-4380 (335MB, 28ms, 10ESDI) $950 > >Maxtor 8380E (335MB, 14.5ms, 15ESDI) $1195 > >MiniScribe 9380E (335MB, 16ms, 10ESDI) $895 > > Can any of these hard drives be used with MS-DOS/IBM PC-DOS? > > If so, which ones? > > > >----- I believe all of them can because there are ESDI cards available for the PC.
teoh@uicbert.eecs.uic.edu (08/21/90)
kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: >>> CDC-Imprimis Wren IV $950 >> >>While we're talking about drives, I saw the following "good" drive prices: >>Maxtor EXT-4380 (335MB, 28ms, 10ESDI) $950 >>Maxtor 8380E (335MB, 14.5ms, 15ESDI) $1195 >>MiniScribe 9380E (335MB, 16ms, 10ESDI) $895 Are these drives used? The prices are shockingly competitive! Please let me know where I can get 'em. Thanks for your help. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hai-Chuan Teoh * Email: teoh@uicbert.eecs.uic.edu Univ of Illinois * Tel: (312) 930-1942 (after 6PM) Electrical Engr & Computer Sci * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
richard@smosjc.UUCP (Richard Asano) (08/22/90)
In article <9wB6N1w162w@ijpc.UUCP>, ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman) writes: > kji@vpnet.chi.il.us (Ken Isacson) writes: > > > >> CDC-Imprimis Wren IV $950 > > > >While we're talking about drives, I saw the following "good" drive prices: > >Maxtor EXT-4380 (335MB, 28ms, 10ESDI) $950 > >Maxtor 8380E (335MB, 14.5ms, 15ESDI) $1195 > >MiniScribe 9380E (335MB, 16ms, 10ESDI) $895 > > Can any of these hard drives be used with MS-DOS/IBM PC-DOS? > > If so, which ones? > They should be all usable by DOS. However, my question is can DOS use all 335MB? Assuming 15 heads, 35 sectors/track, 1024 cylinders, and 512 bytes/track, I get a maximum of 262.5MB. I have not seen any drives with more than 15 heads and I believe ESDI uses 35 sectors/track. Is there some way to address more disk space than 265.5MB without playing games? By games, I mean fooling DOS into thinking that there are more than 35 sectors/track. What are the problems one runs into (software incapatibilities, ex. Spinrite) when playing these games? Richard Asano uunet!smosjc!richard
cjp@beartrk.beartrack.com (CJ Pilzer) (08/22/90)
In article <304@smosjc.UUCP>, richard@smosjc.UUCP (Richard Asano) writes: > > They should be all usable by DOS. However, my question is can DOS use all > 335MB? Assuming 15 heads, 35 sectors/track, 1024 cylinders, and 512 > bytes/track, I get a maximum of 262.5MB. > Well, you ask can you do this without "playing games". I don't know what you mean by that, but I have a Maxtor XT-4380E. It has 1222 cyls. The way it is is used is with an adaptec controller which does track translation. This makes dos think that there are 63 sectors per track and less tracks. There is software on the controller which formats the disk to do this. Using it is easy. Everything I have tried including Windows 3.0 works just fine with the disk. The controller also has a hardware cache. It is an Adaptec ACB-2322D. This controller also has a jumper that can be set to create two drives from one with more than 1024 cyls, but I don't know of any one who has tried it. -- cj
Gumley_LE@cc.curtin.edu.au (Liam Gumley) (08/27/90)
> They should be all usable by DOS. However, my question is can DOS use all > 335MB? Assuming 15 heads, 35 sectors/track, 1024 cylinders, and 512 > bytes/track, I get a maximum of 262.5MB. > > What are the problems one runs into (software incapatibilities, ex. Spinrite) > when playing these games? > As far as I know, all of these drives should be fully usable with DOS 4.01. I have a CDC Wren 330Mb that MSDOS 4.01 handles with no problems. If you had DOS 3.30 then I'm sure Ontrack Systems Disk Manager would also handle all these drives. I have had no trouble at all with software incompatibility, however watch out if you're using Disk Manager. Most modern stuff handles it, but some older stuff does not, with disastrous results (e.g. Norton Disk Doctor before the bug fix). SpinriteII does NOT work with SCSI drives. Hopefully it will support them sometime in the future. Cheers, Liam. -- #Liam E. Gumley, Department of Applied Physics, Curtin University of Technology# #Perth, Western Australia. >>>All opinions expressed are exclusively mine.<<<#